Discussion in 'Cavs Talk' started by PIP, Jan 26, 2013.
The feeling of winning........(and no Elk Shyt)
At least for me, there's a big difference between having Kyrie and our other young guys win games compared to Lester Hudson and Antawn Jamison messing around and stumbling into a few victories.
If our younger guys are good enough to win games, I'm not gonna root against them. I'll be perfectly fine with wherever we end up picking.
It is true. The cavaliers will make the play offs next year.
Isnt this about when the thunder started winning games too?
Actually yes. If I remember end of their 2nd or 3rd rebuilding year they went on a tear.
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Just beautiful. And I say FUCK IT - let the Lakers pick, lottery gods, and Chris Grant combine to work their magic and let us win as many games as we choose and still somehow land a stud in the 2013 draft.
Interesting that we go on a three-game winning streak at the same time CJ Miles misses three games with an illness.
Perhaps the illness was sucking at basketball?
Agreed....also the Memphis trade was great... Speights and Ellington will contribute like they did tonight for this team and we got them for nothing...I was very excited for the trade because I believe both players were undervalued here
The last few games have been unreal...I want another top 5 pick but it's too hard for me to want the team to lose especially when they're playing like this.
Plus we have a very good chance at a lottery pick from Memphis between 2015-2017.
Chris Grant is so damn impressive when it comes to trades. Here's to hoping the improvement in TT and flashes from Dion will mean that he's close to as good when it comes to drafting. Wait and see.
I think we're still bad enough to get a top pick. But a couple more players and we're a play off team next year.
Plus we have plenty of assets to move up to snag the player we want. This has been proclaimed to be a really weak draft, so it's not unfathomable that a team might trade a top three pick for a couple of extra picks.
And by the way, we're still the third-worst team in the league record-wise, so I think everyone needs to calm down a bit.
True. But with 37 games remaining, the Cavs are only 4 games out of the 9th pick (6 games from the 13th). With the way Kyrie, TT, and the new bench crew are all stepping up (and 9 more home games than road games), it suddenly looks plausible we could leapfrog a number of teams by season's end.
As most of the posters here are saying, as long as the wins are coming from brilliance of Kyrie and the improvement of the young guys, I am on board with whatever happens. If these guys can learn how to win on their own as young pups, then we need to take that and supplement as best we can. Luckily no team in the league has the sheer number of future draft picks and cap space to do that. The foundation is strong and we have ample opportunity to add to it, including what will still likely be a top 6-7 pick in a 6-7 player draft(mclemore, shabazz, Len, Noel, porter, Bennett)
Listen, we gotta be disciplined when it comes to our future. You can either have what you want now (winning) or what you want the most (championship). Discipline is putting aside winning now for a a championship later in this instance. If Speights and Ellington are seriously going to make this much of a difference, I hope to God that Grant moves them before they affect our win total too much, only to walk after this season. Having these guys on our team could be the difference between getting Otto Porter and Nerlens Noel. Fuck getting just Otto Porter.
I'm going to be spending some long hours tonight modding and upgrading the tank tonight. I'm dropping in a CJ Milles 5000 engine, a Jamison transmission, JJ Hickson Stone-hands tracks, and a Luke Walton artillery, all topped off with a naked Ryan Hollins silhouette on the side.
On the bright side, both Washington and Charlotte won tonight as well.
What is a play off team? A team that plays off other teams?
WOW we have a bench!
Their second re-building year when they had Durant-Westbrook-Green, they did not have streak that I could see at this time:
But in their third year, after drafting Harden they had a nice 9 game winning streak and finished with 50 wins but were the 8th seed because of the competition in the West:
For me personally, a conversation about winning and what we are doing now is the difference between fucking a 10 who loves you back and paying a 60 year old for hand jobs and the promise for a better tomorrow.
We also need to hope that the Kings are good, but not good enough to make the playoffs during this time, so we can get that first for JJ.
It remains to be seen if he's been impressive with the JJ trade. If we don't end up getting a first rounder, I will call his calculated risk a fail. All of his other trades have been great though.
When talking about Waiters, remember how long it took Harden to have his coming out party. The good thing is I think Gilbert will be willing to pay the luxury tax if we get a great trio.
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