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A closer look at Harrison Barnes

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What if you put Barnes next a SG that can create, but may not be the best shooter. For example, a 1-2-3 of Irving-Stuckey-Barnes seems very complimentary. When looking at the draft, someone like Wroten could be available at #33 or #34, and he seems like he could fit that position well.

We need off the ball play from the SG position, we saw how Irving and Sessions worked out...
 
I feel you need a wing that can play off the ball, and another that can create, does it really matter whether one is a SG and the other is a SF?
 
The ability to drive is allot more important from your sf than the ability to shoot. You need your sf to put pressure on the interior of the defense. I think Barnes only is a 20 point scorer on a bad team, ie someone will need to score.

Good news and bad news - the Cavs are a bad team and will be for at least another year or two :chuckles:

But seriously, his ability to shoot in the NBA should help his driving ability, along with the floor being more spaced. I just don't see him peaking as a 15ppg guy on a good team.
 
I feel you need a wing that can play off the ball, and another that can create, does it really matter whether one is a SG and the other is a SF?

Maybe you are right, but I dont see Stuckey as good fit next to Kyrie, Thats why I want Beal so bad instead of Barnes, dude is a complete package. Kyrie/Beal/Gee could be a really good combo.
 
I don't think you can count on Gee being your starting SF if you are seriously trying to contend for a championship. Either way, we need a starting-level SG and a starting-level SF.
 
I don't think you can count on Gee being your starting SF if you are seriously trying to contend for a championship. Either way, we need a starting-level SG and a starting-level SF.

It's far too early to say anything about Gee. Think about how much he improved last year, and it was a lockout season. Gee has the strength and athleticism to be a starting SF -- if his jumper can continue to improve then he could be a nice defensive SF that focuses on shutting down the opposing threat. Especially considering the fact that our PG is a scoring PG -- we won't need as much offense from some of the other positions. And, as Kyrie improves as a facilitator, he's going to make guys like Gee that much better.

People have to remember that Gee went undrafted, so last year was the first year that he got the kind of treatment and support that a 1st round pick player gets from day 1.

We're lucky to have him, and he'll be a great part of the total package as we continue to find our core talent. I'm not saying he's one of the core talent yet, but it's too soon to say that he can't be a nice fourth or fifth component.
 
It's far too early to say anything about Gee. Think about how much he improved last year, and it was a lockout season. Gee has the strength and athleticism to be a starting SF -- if his jumper can continue to improve then he could be a nice defensive SF that focuses on shutting down the opposing threat. Especially considering the fact that our PG is a scoring PG -- we won't need as much offense from some of the other positions. And, as Kyrie improves as a facilitator, he's going to make guys like Gee that much better.

People have to remember that Gee went undrafted, so last year was the first year that he got the kind of treatment and support that a 1st round pick player gets from day 1.

We're lucky to have him, and he'll be a great part of the total package as we continue to find our core talent. I'm not saying he's one of the core talent yet, but it's too soon to say that he can't be a nice fourth or fifth component.

I didn't say it was a bad thing having Gee on the team. He just isn't going to be a starting SF on a championship level team. There is no doubt he will be a good defensive player off the bench, but he is in no way a starting SF, at least in my opinion...
 
I don't think you can count on Gee being your starting SF if you are seriously trying to contend for a championship. Either way, we need a starting-level SG and a starting-level SF.
And you can't count on Harrison Barnes to be a starting SF either... He can't create for himself, others, can't dribble, and he's not even as great a shooter as people are making him to be. He's a good shooter and that's really his only good attribute.
 
Barnes' offensive game reminds me so much of Artest... Just the way he moves.... Awkward and robotic dribbling. Nothing seems fluid except his spot up jump shot.
 
Barnes' offensive game reminds me so much of Artest... Just the way he moves.... Awkward and robotic dribbling. Nothing seems fluid except his spot up jump shot.
He looks like he's playing in slow motion, and that's not a compliment.
 
I didn't say it was a bad thing having Gee on the team. He just isn't going to be a starting SF on a championship level team. There is no doubt he will be a good defensive player off the bench, but he is in no way a starting SF, at least in my opinion...

So you didn't read my post?

The bolded statement is precisely what I was responding to.

It's far too early to make this call. There are lots of scenarios under which a player like Gee could be a starter on a championship team. He already has the strength and athleticism to be a starting SF, and he's proven that he will be able to defend that position well.

Whether or not Gee can be a starter in the future depends on a lot of things:

-Does his jumper get more consistent?
-Do we draft a scoring SG?
-Does KI continue to be a scoring PG?

I can imagine a lot of scenarios in which Gee becomes our starting SF. Personally, I hope our starting SF is MKG, but I can think of other scenarios that are successful with Gee in that role.
 
DeShawn Stevenson once started for a championship team...
 
And you can't count on Harrison Barnes to be a starting SF either... He can't create for himself, others, can't dribble, and he's not even as great a shooter as people are making him to be. He's a good shooter and that's really his only good attribute.

If Barnes is a top-10 pick, which he will be, I'm pretty sure whichever team drafts him will be hoping he is their SF of the future. As for Gee, he has been in the league for 3 years, so we've had the opportunity to watch him. He's going to very an effective bench player in the league and I don't think anyone can question that.

You cannot say Barnes will not be a good NBA SF when he has yet to step on the court.
 
So you didn't read my post?

The bolded statement is precisely what I was responding to.

It's far too early to make this call. There are lots of scenarios under which a player like Gee could be a starter on a championship team. He already has the strength and athleticism to be a starting SF, and he's proven that he will be able to defend that position well.

Whether or not Gee can be a starter in the future depends on a lot of things:

-Does his jumper get more consistent?
-Do we draft a scoring SG?
-Does KI continue to be a scoring PG?

I can imagine a lot of scenarios in which Gee becomes our starting SF. Personally, I hope our starting SF is MKG, but I can think of other scenarios that are successful with Gee in that role.

You're right. Because Gee has strength and athleticism, he qualifies as a starting SF on a championship level team. Sorry, my bad.
 
Barnes' offensive game reminds me so much of Artest... Just the way he moves.... Awkward and robotic dribbling. Nothing seems fluid except his spot up jump shot.

Things Harrison Barnes and Ron Artest share in common:

(1) Stiffness


Things Harrison Barnes and Ron Artest don't share in common:

Everything else
 

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