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Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

D-Wreck said:
How do you not see where he fits? You can play Waiters, Karasev AND Harris. You don't have to get rid of anyone. It's not rocket science.
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Agree to disagree. I just don't see a role for him on this team. Especially considering we already have Sergey. I would've rather used the pick on a project big or a wing defender as I said. Project big may have developed into the big we've needed for a while now and it's widely known that Wiggins still needs to bulk up to play the 3. Another SF to split time with him would've been beneficial.

We addressed a weakness we had in that we got a guard who excels at shooting off screens and such but I feel as though those other 2 areas I previously stated were bigger areas of concern for our team.

If you disagree that's cool. But that's my opinion. Thought that was the point of a forum. You can keep being condescending online though :chuckles:
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

DJTJ said:
Why does everyone consider them redundant? For worthless comparisons sake, Harris plays like Danny Green. He shoots off of movement from off ball screens. Karasev plays like Manu. He's a big, lanky guard who plays like a point guard, who's deceptively athletic, and who has quality vision and passing skills.

There's plenty of room on this team for shooters, especially shooters who don't need the ball (Harris) and ones who can score and distribute off the bounce (Karasev).
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Great comparison and it should be pretty simple to understand why one would want them both.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Cassius X 1965 said:
Agree to disagree. I just don't see a role for him on this team. Especially considering we already have Sergey. I would've rather used the pick on a project big or a wing defender as I said. Project big may have developed into the big we've needed for a while now and it's widely known that Wiggins still needs to bulk up to play the 3. Another SF to split time with him would've been beneficial.

We addressed a weakness we had in that we got a guard who excels at shooting off screens and such but I feel as though those other 2 areas I previously stated were bigger areas of concern for our team.

If you disagree that's cool. But that's my opinion. Thought that was the point of a forum. You can keep being condescending online though :chuckles:
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Why doesn't he have a role though? I'm just not understanding where you're coming from. Harris and Karasev can BOTH play for us. You seem to be saying they can't both play for us, why?
 
We drafted a wing defender with the first overall pick, we got a wing defender in the second round last year. We are trying to sign LeBron James who is a wing defender. This team needs shooting way more than it needs another wing defender. We got a project big in the second round this year on top of shooting. The last thing this team needed was a high usage isolation wing scorer or defender in the second round. Griffin clearly made this pick with respect to his vision of a basketball team with a coach that has had a lot of success utilizing these type of players.
 
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Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Harris isn't a slouch of a defender. I don't get the idea that he isn't a, "wing defender." Why? By all accounts, he brings a lot of toughness to his game. A white guy that shoots can't possibly be a solid defender as well? He certainly has the body to play solid D.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Cassity14 said:
Harris isn't a slouch of a defender. I don't get the idea that he isn't a, "wing defender." Why? By all accounts, he brings a lot of toughness to his game. A white guy that shoots can't possibly be a solid defender as well? He certainly has the body to play solid D.
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I think his strongest attribute is his shooting, so you know you're getting that. If you are going to label him based on his greatest strength you certainly aren't going to say he is a defender.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

TyGuy said:
I think his strongest attribute is his shooting, so you know you're getting that. If you are going to label him based on his greatest strength you certainly aren't going to say he is a defender.
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I agree completely, but I think everything else is being undersold. He's a very good shooter in a 6'6, thick frame. Griffin compared his toughness to Delly's. That's different than saying he's simply a shooter like Boobie Gibson. I think he's a rotational piece unless he's a bust.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Cassity14 said:
Harris isn't a slouch of a defender. I don't get the idea that he isn't a, "wing defender." Why? By all accounts, he brings a lot of toughness to his game. A white guy that shoots can't possibly be a solid defender as well? He certainly has the body to play solid D.
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C'mon bro, nowhere did I say or imply that. From what I gathered that (defense) isn't a strength of his game.

While Harris demonstrated some positive offensive skills both throughout his college career and at the draft combine, the deciding factor for his NBA career likely comes down to the defensive side of the ball. His limited athletic skills put him at a disadvantage from the start, and he will need to prove he can compete on this end while not being a major liability. Tony Bennett's defensive system has prepared him as much as possible for the next level and Harris looked comfortable making the right rotations and being in the right position on the floor. However, he was often unable to complete the defensive possession, as his lack of length and lateral quickness allowed players to score on him far more than NBA scouts would have liked.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz35sbQbgQS
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He tries and gives effort defensively which is good but he's not a good defender from what I've read. Don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I've already gone over why I "dislike" the pick ad nauseum so I'll drop it. We ended up with a good player and some people have provided justification for the pick so I'm content. Still would've preferred we address some of our other areas of need but Harris does provide value in certain situations.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Can I get an update on his thighs ?
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

PIP said:
Can I get an update on his thighs ?
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I've spent the past 20 minutes staring at Joey Hoops' thighs. Clear thigh upgrade, makes Karasev look like every leg day he says, "Looks like rain out there, Navy Seals starring Charlie Sheen is starting up on TBS, I've got a half eaten bag of Tostitos... screw it."
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

If I've said it once, I've said it like 4 times... Big time players have big time thighs in big time games....

If your thighs aren't 4th quarter luscious, you're probably not going to thrive... The wrist is where you make your name-- the thighs is where you make your fame...

I remember playing for the Armco Heating & Cooling Hornets during the 97-98 season and playing up against Hall of Famer George Ice Man Gervin's son: Gee Thin Crust Gervin and all I could remember before tip off was seeing his legs and thinking --- you don't bring 2 pretzel sticks to an all you can eat Basketball Mortal Combat.....

What a tool...
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Karasev has no excuse not to get a hold of performance enhancing drugs. You can probably get them in vending machines in Russia.
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Fuggles said:
Karasev has no excuse not to get a hold of performance enhancing drugs. You can probably get them in vending machines in Russia.
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You can't even get FOOD in vending machines in Russia. :gap:
 
Re: Sergey Karasev - #10 - the Invisible Shotmaker!

Fuggles said:
Karasev has no excuse not to get a hold of performance enhancing drugs. You can probably get them in vending machines in Russia.
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I hope this is a joke... But Karasev and Harris are very different, just because they are both good shooters doesn't mean they are the same player. Karasev is more of an all-around player and a playmaker, meanwhile Harris is strictly a spot up shooter.
 
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