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Obama's Plan to Regulate the Internet is 332 Pages. The Public Can't Read It!

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OptimusPrime said:
What? The side writing the rules gains everything. The politicians will get nice kickbacks from the companies they end up favoring. They will have control and surveillance of all content, which is all they really want.
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There are 5 people on the FCC board, which is the one writing this. 3 democrats, 2 republicans, all of which confirmed by the senate. They aren't going to gain anything.

The congressmen and women who were trying to get a law passed before the FCC had a chance to do this were trying to do so because of they were getting lobbied (read: paid) by the ISPs who stood to benefit from Net Neutrality getting squashed.
 
You can be detained indefinitely without a trial, an attorney, etc. You cannot legally protest. The gov't spies on EVERY SINGLE PHONE CALL, TEXT MESSAGE, INSTANT MESSAGE, EMAIL ETC that you send.

But I mean sure, the last free place you have to speak your mind is going to be controlled by the government. That couldn't possibly turn out badly.
 
spydy13 said:
What are they censoring on the airwaves/tv/etc? Violence is rampant, sex is rampant, free speech is everywhere. Not sure I see the problem that would make you think we are suddenly going to become China and block people from seeing things critical of the government, pornographic, or violent. If we really operated that way Obama would have had FOX News shut down his first day in office.
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No, he wouldn't. Fox News pushes the same agenda Obama wants. How many times do you see the media report on children murdered by U.S. drones in the Middle East? None? Ok. What about institutionalized police brutality and the denial of basic human rights in this country? I've yet to see a story on that. And I never will. And now we will never read about them on the internet again either.
 
spydy13 said:
What are they censoring on the airwaves/tv/etc? Violence is rampant, sex is rampant, free speech is everywhere. Not sure I see the problem that would make you think we are suddenly going to become China and block people from seeing things critical of the government, pornographic, or violent. If we really operated that way Obama would have had FOX News shut down his first day in office.

I find the leap you make to be ridiculous and funny.
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They censor (or at the least discredit) anything that goes against what they want to be received as public (mainstream) perception. The internet is now very much in danger of being shaped in the same manner.

Sex and violence are perfectly fine because they keep the peasants pre-occupied, and they can be used to serve other purposes (agendas).
 
spydy13 said:
There are 5 people on the FCC board, which is the one writing this. 3 democrats, 2 republicans, all of which confirmed by the senate. They aren't going to gain anything.
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:chuckle:
 
spydy13 said:
There are 5 people on the FCC board, which is the one writing this. 3 democrats, 2 republicans, all of which confirmed by the senate. They aren't going to gain anything.
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True. I can't possibly see any of the current FCC commissioners retiring into a comfy and highly-paid lobbying position when their term is finished. I doubt that has ever happened.
 
Man Called X said:
I find it hilarious that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

This has nothing to do with decency of the airwaves. FFS, all the violence and sex is there purposely to distract you and desensitize you. This is the same government that has tried to make it a crime to speak out against America on MULTIPLE occasions. Starting as early 1782.

Your ability to protest the government has already been stripped. You cannot protest anywhere within 100 yards of an on duty member of the Secret Service. Wake the fuck up and see what is happening.
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Man Called X said:
http://www.ora.tv/politicking/fcc-c...-secret-plan-regulate-internet-0_4pf66sfwkuhe

An FCC commissioner echoing my sentiments.

But I'm the crazy one right? Not the guy who actually works at the fucking FCC.
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That guy was a lawyer for Verizon, who is one of the few ISPs. Hmmm, I wonder why he would be against Net Neutrality?

Man Called X said:
Pretty much if you're too stupid to see what is happening, you'll be one of the first I shoot when shit hits the fans. There's no place for idiots in the future.
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And you don't need to worry about the future, my friend. The government's plan to poison us through the drinking water will kill us all by then.
 
Mark Cuban was on CNBC and brought up an interesting point. Now that the FCC is the Dept of the Internet, will they eventually apply decency standards?
 
spydy13 said:
Again, I'm fine with the general public seeing it.

If this went to congress though they would all be bought off by the lobbying efforts by the ISPs or it would get stuck in the gridlock and nothing would ever happen. Either outcome is bad for the consumer/citizenry/taxpayer.
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It didn't have to go through Congress, and Congress would have to pass a law (which the President could then veto) to stop it. Which we all knew wasn't going to happen. Congress was essentially impotent whether this was released or not.
 
Maximus said:
Mark Cuban was on CNBC and brought up an interesting point. Now that the FCC is the Dept of the Internet, will they eventually apply decency standards?
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Not possible. Mark Cuban is ignorant.

Our infrastructure would not allow for such a thing. However, without Net Neutrality, we would end up with discrete networks at Tier 1 and then we could end up in a scenario where some entity, private or public, could censor content.
 
gourimoko said:
Not possible. Mark Cuban is ignorant.

Our infrastructure would not allow for such a thing. However, without Net Neutrality, we would end up with discrete networks at Tier 1 and then we could end up in a scenario where some entity, private or public, could censor content.
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Infrastructure may not allow for simple censoring, but the fact that the majority of all DNS providers in the world are located in the US, they most certainly could effectively neuter websites.
 
gourimoko said:
Not possible. Mark Cuban is ignorant.

Our infrastructure would not allow for such a thing. However, without Net Neutrality, we would end up with discrete networks at Tier 1 and then we could end up in a scenario where some entity, private or public, could censor content.
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What makes you think isn't possible? If it really isn't possible based on our current infrastructure, then that is a huge relief, because having the government regulate the internet as a utility is a surefire way to ensure that we have the same infrastructure and technology 100 years from now.
 
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