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For anyone watching post game interview, what does Lebron think he heard? Reporter asked question about interior defense, Lebron got legit angry look, made him repeat question in totality, and then relaxed and said he thought he heard him say something else. Someone commented you thought he said that, and Lebron said" yeah, I really did."

Went back on DVR but couldn't figure it out and wondered if anyone got what Lebron thought the guy said.

The reporter said something to the effect that our interior defense was really solid tonight, and Lebron thought he said soft instead of solid.

If you go to Cavs.com they have his post-game interview posted and you can hear it pretty clearly.

Bron's reaction was pretty funny tho.
 
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Actively tried to get his coach fired is a stretch considering it's all based on speculation. And for every game he supposedly phoned in he played like his usual dominant self in two more. The team was playing great with him (18-12) before he got hurt, he was still one of the best players in the NBA before we made the blockbuster trades that saved the season.

Everyone acts like LeBron underwent a major change since returning from his hiatus; the team just got a whole lot better around him. His numbers pre-January 13th (his return and right before the 12-game winning streak) aren't nearly as bad as they're made out to be.

Pre-injury: 29 games, 25/7/5 on 49/37/74 splits
Post-injury: 32 games, 27/7/6 on 50/34/70 splits



This thought he played so poorly in the first part of the season is getting old.

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He wasnt as good as his numbers suggested though.
The Cavs still won 13 of the last 17 games (he missed one game)before LeBron went on "vacation"

39-10 in games LeBron's played dating back to the "controversy"

Another reason I shot down the he tried to get Spo fired as well because the Heat went on a 21 -1 run during the chaotic part of their season.

Idk. Maybe he did do those things. He just happens to be really terrible at it or just too good at basketball that a guy like me didnt see it as "that"

Maybe we're just in denial. I've been wrong before. Maybe I'm wrong on this as well. It does take a bit of the fun/triumph out of it having to think like that.
 
Seems like if the cavs lose and lbj shoots 40% in a playoff series, I could already tell you it's because he's trying to get blatt fired during the postseason

You heard it here first.

And if he shoots less than 40% and loses in a sweep, hrs also trying to get the GM fired

You heard it here first
 
Seems like if the cavs lose and lbj shoots 40% in a playoff series, I could already tell you it's because he's trying to get blatt fired during the postseason

You heard it here first.

And if he shoots less than 40% and loses in a sweep, hrs also trying to get the GM fired

You heard it here first

Putrid.
 
You can tell in this thread that some fans are never going to get over LeBron leaving in 2010. If the Cavs don't win it all this year, a lot people are going to be quick to put the blame on LeBron.
 
Seems like if the cavs lose and lbj shoots 40% in a playoff series, I could already tell you it's because he's trying to get blatt fired during the postseason

You heard it here first.

And if he shoots less than 40% and loses in a sweep, hrs also trying to get the GM fired

You heard it here first

A lot of paranoid fans here. Funny part is LeBron would drop monster lines in a loss and he would still get the blame in the loss. But when his teammates in the past stunk up the joint (Jamison, Mo, etc) you didn't hear a peep about it. Never seen a player get the kind of criticism LeBron does. People forget we are watching one of the 3 best NBA players in the history of the game. Yes, top 3. The conspiracy garbage gets old. What we know right now is that we have been the best team in the league post-Smith/Moz/Shumpert trades. Is LeBron going to win MVP? No. But that doesn't mean he isn't the best player in the league.
 
LeBron doesn't deserve the MVP this year. It's as simple as that. This isn't 2011 when they gave the MVP to someone else to spite LeBron for choosing to team up with superstars. LeBron spent the first third of the year playing like a lazy fucker and trying to get his coach fired. He only started actually trying in January.

To be fair, he also tried to get his coach fired in 2011, but 2011 lazy LeBron was still significantly better than 2014 lazy LeBron.

1. No, 2011 LeBron isn't better than this current LeBron. 2011 had more athleticism. That was it. 2014 LeBron is infinitely more polished. Post-up game, better off the ball, championship experience, etc. You can pull up whatever stats you want. 2011 LeBron was still sketchy in big games. 2. You don't think it's a coincidence that LeBron was exceptionally better after taking those two weeks off? He looked beat up and exhausted the first 1/3 the season.
 
Seems like if the cavs lose and lbj shoots 40% in a playoff series, I could already tell you it's because he's trying to get blatt fired during the postseason

You heard it here first.

And if he shoots less than 40% and loses in a sweep, hrs also trying to get the GM fired

You heard it here first

You're talking out of your ass.

You heard it here first.
 
1. No, 2011 LeBron isn't better than this current LeBron. 2011 had more athleticism. That was it. 2014 LeBron is infinitely more polished. Post-up game, better off the ball, championship experience, etc. You can pull up whatever stats you want. 2011 LeBron was still sketchy in big games. 2. You don't think it's a coincidence that LeBron was exceptionally better after taking those two weeks off? He looked beat up and exhausted the first 1/3 the season.

Lol at you can pull up any stats you want. So if we can't use stats to prove that LeBron was better and more efficient in '11, what are we required to use? Your eyes? The games you watched that year? What do you mean post-up game? He rarely, if ever, posts. Hates it. He doesn't love playing off the ball either. I wouldn't call off-ball or post play any major part of his game. He was actually a better shooter in '11 and more efficient. The next year, he was even better than that.

And what's with this crap a couple of you keep putting out there that people are super critical of LeBron? Everyone seems to love and respect LeBron's game. He's awesome, the best in the game. But he was better in that 11-12 season for the Heat and some don't agree he should be MVP when there's other excellent candidates.

Additionally, re: "people haven't forgiven LeBron." If people are taking this seriously enough that they have to melodramatically forgive someone, fuck them. But to not trust him...definitely. They shouldn't.
 
Lol at you can pull up any stats you want. So if we can't use stats to prove that LeBron was better and more efficient in '11, what are we required to use? Your eyes? The games you watched that year? What do you mean post-up game? He rarely, if ever, posts. Hates it.

And what's with this crap a couple of you keep putting out there that people are super critical of LeBron? Everyone seems to love and respect LeBron's game. He's awesome, the best in the game. But he was better in that 11-12 season for the Heat and some don't agree he should be MVP when there's other excellent candidates.

Additionally, re: "people haven't forgiven LeBron." If people are taking this seriously enough that they have to melodramatically forgive someone, fuck them. But to not trust him...definitely. They shouldn't.
Why the fuck are you bringing up 11-12 LeBron? Who said current LeBron is better than 11-12 LeBron? That LeBron had one of the best postseason runs in NBA history. As for 10-11 LeBron, you know, like the one I was talking about. I take this LeBron over him 12 times out of 10. As for the forgiveness crap. We don't owe LeBron shit. And he doesn't owe us anything either. But instead of being happy he is back, some people still haven't gotten over him leaving. That is a fact. You can ignore all you want, but there is a group of fans here that haven't let it go.
 
Lol at you can pull up any stats you want. So if we can't use stats to prove that LeBron was better and more efficient in '11, what are we required to use? Your eyes? The games you watched that year? What do you mean post-up game? He rarely, if ever, posts. Hates it. He doesn't love playing off the ball either. I wouldn't call off-ball or post play any major part of his game. He was actually a better shooter in '11 and more efficient.

2011 lebron is only better in the sense that he was more athletic with a better motor but the poster above is correct that 2014 lebron is better and more polished because he now knows what it takes to a champ after 2012. Lebron doesn't hate the post or off ball, it's that they don't know(Kyrie) how to get him in his sweet spots like Miami did. If you watched Lebron in MIami, he was deadly off the ball as a spot up shooter and cutter because they knew how and when to get him the ball.

The recent Warriors game is how he played the last 3 years in Miami, staring from the low and high posts


The first half tonight vs the Warriors is how Lebron operated the last 3 years in Miami. The high and low post which is inside out instead of outside in like the Cavs have him playing due to handling the ball so much.


LeBron explains how he transformed himself into a ruthlessly efficient scoring machine

After his summer workouts, James checked in with Spoelstra to let him know about his summer project. “Spo and I had a conversation. I told him how hard I worked on my low-post game. I knew we needed low-post scoring; we were more of a perimeter-oriented team my first year here, the year we lost the Finals, and I knew I had to get better, and in order for us to get better we had to be more efficient in the low post, so I took that approach.”

It worked. James emerged from that summer transformed. “When he returned after the lockout, he was a totally different player,” Spoelstra says. “It was as if he downloaded a program with all of Olajuwon’s and Ewing’s post-up moves. I don’t know if I’ve seen a player improve that much in a specific area in one offseason. His improvement in that area alone transformed our offense to a championship level in 2012.”

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James’s shot selection in the 2011-12 campaign was completely different, and completely dominant. For the first time in his career, his game was heavily asymmetric. James spent a lot more time on the left side of the court than the right, especially down on the left block, a spot that he now refers to as his “sweet spot.” He took fewer 3s and spent most of his time closer to the basket. Good things happen for Miami when James is in the post and near the basket. Not only is he his team’s leading scorer, he’s its best passer and its best rebounder. LeBron’s migration to the left block not only helped his scoring efficiency, it opened up space elsewhere for spot-up shooters like Shane Battier. When you study his most common shot locations before and after the Hakeem trip, it’s almost like you’re looking at two different players.

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It’s not hard to find people around the Heat who will tell you that the summer following that Finals loss to Dallas is what transformed James from a runner-up into a champion. Up through those 2011 Finals, James had yet to fully take advantage of his size and the inherent matchup nightmares he brings to every game. Battier says James is far better at exploiting that fact now.

“He understands that he’s got a physical mismatch pretty much every night, and the best place to take advantage of that is on the block,” he says. “He’s worked at that. Scoring on the block is not a right in this league, you have to have a game down there, and he’s worked on that. Now he’s got a few moves that are really tough to stop down there.”

The 2011 trip to Houston, and subsequent adjustments, obviously worked. The Heat beat the Thunder in the Finals, and LeBron was named the MVP of both the regular season and the Finals. But James wasn’t satisfied. He recommitted himself to improving even more in the summer of 2012. This season, LeBron still loves the left block, but he’s also introduced a few more tricks.

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This season he’s back to shooting 3s and fewer midrange shots.

“You know, I changed. I didn’t shoot many 3s last year, I kind of played more in the post, and more in the midrange, but I felt like I worked on 3s enough this past offseason that I could make another change — and the least efficient shot in our game is the midrange shot — so I thought maybe I could move it out, improve my 3-point shooting, continue to work on my low-post scoring, and then leave the midrange to be my next journey.”

James told me that when he was working on his 3s, he’d punish himself until he met a lofty set of self-enforced shooting milestones.

“It’s work,” James says. “It’s a lot of work. It’s being in workouts, and not accomplishing your goal, and paying for it. So, if I get to a spot in a workout and want to make eight out of 10, if I don’t make eight of 10, then I run. I push myself to the point of exhaustion until I make that goal. So you build up that mentality that you got to make that shot and then use that in a game situation — it’s the ultimate feeling, when you’re able to work on something and implement it.”

Last year James achieved that ultimate feeling by developing and implementing that left-block game. This season he’s doing it with his much-improved long-range shot and his continued dominance attacking the basket and finding open shooters. “Our team is built around perimeter attacking, getting to the rim, and when guys clog up the paint, we’re able to kick it out for 3s.”

James is also a very good passer. Using optically tracked performance data from the SportVU system, we can start to visualize this vital aspect of his game. LeBron’s dominance near the basket forces defenses to collapse in upon him, which opens up shots along the perimeter. The Heat decorate the perimeter with some of the league’s most elite spot-up shooters, including Ray Allen and Battier. James is highly aware of the whereabouts of these teammates, and he’s always cognizant of who might be open where and when. As a result, he commonly fires long passes to spot-up shooters in the corners as soon as he notices a collapsing defender.

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The reintegration of his own 3-point shot is justified in part by James’s newfound comfort. He’s shooting 39 percent from 3-point range this season, far and away the highest such mark in his career. In Cleveland, James was frequently forced to create his own shot and rarely had good catch-and-shoot chances. That’s different now. In fact, when we look at the SportVU data to see where he spends his time on offense, there are four distinct pockets of space.

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Three of these areas are, unsurprisingly, on that dominant left side — on the wing beyond the arc, on the elbow, and on the block — but there’s one anomalous spot on the right. James spends a surprising amount of time in the right corner, a spot usually reserved for spot-up shooters like Battier or Rashard Lewis. LeBron says, “Our offense puts me in the right corner sometimes; in one of our sets I’m kind of in the right corner, or I’m running in transition and D-Wade is handling the ball so I’m kind of giving him space.” Although the sample remains small, James is hitting an obnoxious 53 percent of his shots from that right corner. The league’s most overqualified spot-up shooter is hitting those shots at an elite rate and providing yet another way for his team to succeed.

Simply put, LeBron James remains both the NBA’s most valuable and its most versatile player. He is acutely aware of his own game and his team’s strategy. He continues to find new ways to integrate his own evolving talents with those of his teammates, and he makes everyone better in the process. While it’s simple to label James a physical freak with outrageous basketball talents, that sells his progress, work ethic, and intelligence short. LeBron James is a basketball nerd who just happens to possess once-in-a-generation talent.

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Why the fuck are you bringing up 11-12 LeBron? Who said current LeBron is better than 11-12 LeBron? That LeBron had one of the best postseason runs in NBA history. As for 10-11 LeBron, you know, like the one I was talking about. I take this LeBron over him 12 times out of 10. As for the forgiveness crap. We don't owe LeBron shit. And he doesn't owe us anything either. But instead of being happy he is back, some people still haven't gotten over him leaving. That is a fact. You can ignore all you want, but there is a group of fans here that haven't let it go.

10-11 and 11-12 are both '11. I covered 10-11 before 11-12.

He was better that year too.

What do you mean "get over?" Get over as in like emotionally recover to where they leave the house without crying?

Or get over as in they refuse to look at his game objectively?

Because looking at his game objectively, he was marginally better in 10-11 and significantly better in 11-12.

Regardless, I don't fault people for distrusting the guy. It makes perfect sense not to.
 
You can tell in this thread that some fans are never going to get over LeBron leaving in 2010. If the Cavs don't win it all this year, a lot people are going to be quick to put the blame on LeBron.


These are the same people back in late December/early Jan who thought the Cavs would play better without him...oh boy, weren't they proven wrong:chuckle:
 
Without LeBron, the Cavs would struggle to hit .500. Primarily because Love and Kyrie still have never played winning basketball.

I'd be curious how they'd do if it happened 1-2 years from now after some playoff experience.
 

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