No, it boils down to not running around in circles... can't you try to understand that?
I'm asking a simple condition, one that any reasonable person shouldn't have a hard time agreeing to.. That being, that if I can prove a point, you agree it's been proven; and if you prove a point, then I agree it's been proven. If I present a fact and it's it demonstrated to be false; then I'll admit it and withdraw it -- and if you submit a fact that's demonstrated to be false, then you'll admit it's false, and withdraw it.
It's not about "getting that win," it's about actually critically assessing an idea.
Instead of treating this topic like you're on Ajit Pai's team, trying to "win" something, just try to understand what I just said.