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Derek said:
I don't buy that AD will go to LA in 2020. I believe he's only saying that in an attempt to force the move now, because you can't tell me with a straight face that Anthony Davis will be chomping at the bit to go team up with 36 year old LeBron.

Whatever contract Davis signs in 2020, LeBron will likely retire before its conclusion. Then what? I have to believe he's not short-sighted enough to put himself in a position to waste even more prime years than he already has/will.

There are, and will be, other young stars to team up with.
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Not even that...

The Lakers would have to make a conscious decision to sign only 1 year deals this summer. So they're going to throw away another year with LeBron at this level? That is so stupid. The Cavs would be literally set on fire by the media for that strategy.

Say Boston trades for AD. AD tells LA hes still coming next year. They don't get KD or Klay so they basically do the same thing they did last summer.

Then Boston tears up the league. They win the East. They win the title even. Or push GS to 6 or 7...

Then AD stays. Kawhi, KD, Klay, Kyrie, Butler, Walker, Middleton, Etc ALL are locked up elsewhere...Harden, Russ, PG, Paul, Dipo, Beal, Dame, Jokic, Giannis...all under contract..

Then all of a sudden the Lakers just threw 2 seasons away. Didn't get AD. And LeBron has an ETO and can be a free agent in the summer of 2021. And you've completely failed. The media at this point will not let them get away with it if it comes to that.

And guess what...the Cavs just so happen to have Zion Williamson, Sexton or equivalent assets, two max slots, another incoming lottery pick and about 8 other first/2nd rounders and probably a big expiring contract to play with.

Okay...sorry..the last part is pure fantasy but everything before that is 100% a serious risk if the Lakers try to wait until 2020. LeBron will be turning 36 that season.
 
Tatum,Brown,Rozier or Lonzo,Ingram,Kuzma? I like the Celtics core a bit more personality

Why would Danny Ainge trade that away for a one year rental though? Could be the next Celtics/Brooklyn trade if AD ends up leaving, and let’s be honest Kyrie and AD are not beating GS so it’s a huge risk for Ainge.

I think the PG13 thing got a lot of these GMs completely delusional, they think they can convince anybody to stay.

Let’s say AD is traded to Boston and they don’t win a ring than AD and Kyrie both leave.. Danny Ainge will be destroyed by Boston fans and his reputation as a smart GM will go down the toilet pretty quick as the guy that traded their entire future for a one year rental.
 
K1rieIrving>AllOtherPG's said:
Tatum,Brown,Rozier or Lonzo,Ingram,Kuzma? I like the Celtics core a bit more personality

Why would Danny Ainge trade that away for a one year rental though? Could be the next Celtics/Brooklyn trade if AD ends up leaving, and let’s be honest Kyrie and AD are not beating GS so it’s a huge risk for Ainge.

I think the PG13 thing got a lot of these GMs completely delusional, they think they can convince anybody to stay.

Let’s say AD is traded to Boston and they don’t win a ring than AD and Kyrie both leave.. Danny Ainge will be destroyed by Boston fans and his reputation as a smart GM will go down the toilet pretty quick as the guy that traded their entire future for a one year rental.
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1. The Celtics core is way more than a "bit" more valuable. By a lot. Tatum is a bonafide blue-chipper. The Lakers do not have that.

2. The Celtics also have multiple valuable draft picks. The Lakers have their own first. That's it.

3. Kyrie will be a FA this summer. If they get AD, he's gonna re-sign. So him leaving is only a concern for this upcoming summer.

AD would be choosing to leave a Kyrie/Hayward/Horford/Brown(assuming they trade Tatum and a few picks) core to go play with 36 year old LeBron entering a contract year? He may say that now. I'll believe it when I see it though.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Woj, Lowe and Windy just wrote a huge piece.

Highlights-

Dell Demps has not returned the Lakers calls. New Orleans is basically sending a message that they have no interest in trading him to L.A..

Pelicans are signaling they're almost for sure going to wait until the summer to see where the lottery lands and to see what Boston will offer.

Davis is signaling that he will just go to the Lakers in 2020 free agency regardless of where he's traded. (If they throw away two of LeBron's final best years waiting for AD...wow...)

Boston is determined to trade for AD regardless and thinks he would stay if they kept Kyrie and competed for titles.

Mickey Loomis is an NFL guy, where the players dont have nearly this kind of power, and that is driving the Pelicans decisions to not simply bend over and take it from AD. They're going to fight to do what is best for THEM, not for AD.

Mickey Loomis and Danny Ainge are both from Eugene, OR. No personal relationship though.

"New Orleans owner Gayle Benson is enthusiastically carrying the small market banner, pushing back on any planned superstar union of James and Davis in the NBA's glamour market."
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WOOOOHHHH...that article hurt my brain..had to stop reading it .
 
103, member: 1318"]I don't think Ferry had that vision/path to build a great team.
I do think Griff had the mind to go down that path, although he was a lead foot on trading away assets a bit too quickly.[/QUOTE]

Griffin was terrible. Probably the most over praised guy on this forum. He was not a good GM, at all.

We are largely in this position thanks to him.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
1. The Celtics core is way more than a "bit" more valuable. By a lot. Tatum is a bonafide blue-chipper. The Lakers do not have that.

2. The Celtics also have multiple valuable draft picks. The Lakers have their own first. That's it.

3. Kyrie will be a FA this summer. If they get AD, he's gonna re-sign. So him leaving is only a concern for this upcoming summer.

AD would be choosing to leave a Kyrie/Hayward/Horford/Brown(assuming they trade Tatum and a few picks) core to go play with 36 year old LeBron entering a contract year? He may say that now. I'll believe it when I see it though.
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Since the Celtics can outbid everyone the only reason NO would trade to LA would because they were OK with harming their team and franchise to do a favor for a superstar who is leaving them and for the Los Angeles Lakers. I really can't see that happening.

Rational move for Celtics would be to clear the cupboard (Tatum, Hayward, Kings pick, Grizzlies pick, their pick) to get AD and ignore whatever he says about going to LA. if he wins a championship in Boston it doesn't seem likely that he would leave. And you've got to take a chance or two to win a championship.

Lakers blew it BIG TIME when they let Paul George and Kawhi Leonard pass them by to preserve their "young core".
 
cavsfever said:
Since the Celtics can outbid everyone the only reason NO would trade to LA would because they were OK with harming their team and franchise to do a favor for a superstar who is leaving them and for the Los Angeles Lakers. I really can't see that happening.

Rational move for Celtics would be to clear the cupboard (Tatum, Hayward, Kings pick, Grizzlies pick, their pick) to get AD and ignore whatever he says about going to LA. if he wins a championship in Boston it doesn't seem likely that he would leave. And you've got to take a chance or two to win a championship.

Lakers blew it BIG TIME when they let Paul George and Kawhi Leonard pass them by to preserve their "young core".
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Yeah, if the Pels move him to LA before the deadline theu are either incompetent or there is some legitimate conspiracy shit going on. Literally 0 downside to waiting until July. The Lakers are gonna offer the same package regardless.


Tatum is just such a potentially huge prize. Or Zion. Why settle for Ingram, Kuzma and already pre-requested a trade Lonzo.
 
="godfather, post: 3196180, member: 2771"]103, member: 1318"]I don't think Ferry had that vision/path to build a great team.
I do think Griff had the mind to go down that path, although he was a lead foot on trading away assets a bit too quickly.
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Griffin was terrible. Probably the most over praised guy on this forum. He was not a good GM, at all.

We are largely in this position thanks to him.
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No he wasn't terrible..and you never mentioned how he was terrible.
He put together a championship team, something none of our other GM's had done.
Now I don't need to rehash his negatives which have been discussed many times, but he was not terrible.
The real persons responsible for the current position of the team play in LA and Boston and partly Gilbert.
Every team Lebron plays for is gutted once he goes just to get assets back...you know that.
It happened to Cleveland twice, and Miami..now watch what happens to the Fakers in a couple of years.
 
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Per ESPN, the plot thickens:

Davis' camp has let it be known he doesn't consider the Celtics a long-term home because he doesn't believe Irving plans to re-sign with the Celtics next season, sources said. The New York Knicks' stunning salary-dump trade that moved out Porzingis on Thursday cleared enough salary-cap space for the team to chase both Kevin Durant and Irving in free agency.
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If this all ends up with the Knicks as a superteam, the Celtics sucking, and the Warriors losing Durant then that's a good outcome in my book. Knicks fans have suffered enough.

I don't see Kyrie leaving if the Celtics get Davis. But you never know with him.
 
Green Lantern said:
No he wasn't terrible..and you never mentioned how he was terrible.
He put together a championship team, something none of our other GM's had done.
Now I don't need to rehash his negatives which have been discussed many times, but he was not terrible.
The real persons responsible for the current position of the team play in LA and Boston and partly Gilbert.
Every team Lebron plays for is gutted once he goes just to get assets back...you know that.
It happened to Cleveland twice, and Miami..now watch what happens to the Fakers in a couple of years.
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He put together championship team?

Really?

LeBron decided to come back.

We lucked into the first round pick, so we had the ammo to trade for Love.

Kyrie was already here.

Seriously?

He made one solid trade, in getting us Shump and JR. Everything else he did was pretty bad.

We had no room to get better because of his shitty re-signs, and depleting all of our assets.

I just laugh when people think he honestly put a championship team together. When anyone of us could have gotten credit for it.

LeBron coming back, wasn't basically what sealed it, no?
 
Not so sure Kyrie will resign with Boston. If ( and thats a big if ) Durant is really going to the Knicks, then I can see Kyrie going there to join him. I always felt that Kyrie would go to NY. On another note, it cracks me up that AD states he wants to go to another team to "win". Then why is NY your 2nd option?
 
Green Lantern said:
No he wasn't terrible..and you never mentioned how he was terrible.
He put together a championship team, something none of our other GM's had done.
Now I don't need to rehash his negatives which have been discussed many times, but he was not terrible.
The real persons responsible for the current position of the team play in LA and Boston and partly Gilbert.
Every team Lebron plays for is gutted once he goes just to get assets back...you know that.
It happened to Cleveland twice, and Miami..now watch what happens to the Fakers in a couple of years.
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Miami wasn't gutted when LeBron left.
 
Pjlea28 said:
Not so sure Kyrie will resign with Boston. If ( and thats a big if ) Durant is really going to the Knicks, then I can see Kyrie going there to join him. I always felt that Kyrie would go to NY. On another note, it cracks me up that AD states he wants to go to another team to "win". Then why is NY your 2nd option?
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The Knicks can get two max guys in free agency in the summer. They can trade for AD after the lottery and could possible have a offer better than the Celtics. They will have a high lotto pick this year and got two first round picks in the Dallas trade. Add to that they don't have any out going 1st round picks and have a couple incoming 2nd round picks. They could have a top 5 pick in the draft, Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, a couple other young players, the two Dallas 1st round picks, and whichever of their first and 2nd round picks in the future to send to the Pelicans for AD.

Also they aren't done dealing, they could send Wes Matthews and DeAndre off at the deadline. I've also seen that teams are interested in Noah Vonleh.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Not even that...

The Lakers would have to make a conscious decision to sign only 1 year deals this summer. So they're going to throw away another year with LeBron at this level? That is so stupid. The Cavs would be literally set on fire by the media for that strategy.

Say Boston trades for AD. AD tells LA hes still coming next year. They don't get KD or Klay so they basically do the same thing they did last summer.

Then Boston tears up the league. They win the East. They win the title even. Or push GS to 6 or 7...

Then AD stays. Kawhi, KD, Klay, Kyrie, Butler, Walker, Middleton, Etc ALL are locked up elsewhere...Harden, Russ, PG, Paul, Dipo, Beal, Dame, Jokic, Giannis...all under contract..

Then all of a sudden the Lakers just threw 2 seasons away. Didn't get AD. And LeBron has an ETO and can be a free agent in the summer of 2021. And you've completely failed. The media at this point will not let them get away with it if it comes to that.

And guess what...the Cavs just so happen to have Zion Williamson, Sexton or equivalent assets, two max slots, another incoming lottery pick and about 8 other first/2nd rounders and probably a big expiring contract to play with.

Okay...sorry..the last part is pure fantasy but everything before that is 100% a serious risk if the Lakers try to wait until 2020. LeBron will be turning 36 that season.
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I don’t think LeBron really fits in the Lakers timeline. He’s an attractive player to have, but I feel like he’s given up by heading to LA. The Lakers aren’t going anywhere in the West, they also don’t have the ability to anytime soon without two more max contracts. I think they maybe get one. Maybe. Realistically, I don’t think they can compete till LeBron is 36 anyway.

It is stupid, to waste years from LeBron. They are simply using him to sell tickets, and he’s using them and the city for endorsements and movies. It’s a joke.
 
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