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The chance of the Cavs drafting 6th is very low. It is the 4th/5th pick where the odds really rise compared to the old system.
I’m really interested in Kabengele (?) with the Rockets pick. Big, blocks shots, shoots 3s. Pretty desirable skill set for someone who should be available at 26.
The problem I have with White, Hunter, and Culver is i think they will evolve to pretty OK players.. probably.. if I were to stand any one of them next to Rodney Hood, I would be hard pressed to differentiate. I see a difference between them and Barret, but.. not between each other. In fact i would have Okeke as a better choice than all of those guys pre injury.. he is bigger, a better shooter, and a team defense guy..
What has worked with sexton at 8, was his upside and desire to achieve it. He clearly had skills being the best player on a bad team, but he was also willing to work hard to get better..
Thats why I am saying Goga maybe at 4, because if he succeeds he changes the equation.. or trade back and pick up maybe white AND Okeke, increasing the odds that one will achieve special..
I also think picking up a 6 8 wing really helps us the most, because I think, cedi gets better opposite another 6 8 wing. Cedi has the handles to play 2, and with Sexton at the point the back court is going to be loaded. Or when you are resting sexton, you can use cedi and wing 2, or nance to bring the ball up and initiate..
Hood would be the one shitting his pants on the wide open jumpers in the playoffs.
I don't believe in trading back in the NBA. That's for the NFL, where I don't really believe in doing it either.
Take BPA. I think Hunter can be really, really good. Tobias Harris-Leonard-peak Danny Granger on the high end, Jeff Green on the low end (I know, when you say the low end, everyone goes: why take Jeff Green at 6? Well because the high end is f-ing Kawai Leonard).
I'm not big on Cedi, he's OK, maybe an OK rotation guy on a good team eventually. I guess he has the handles to play the 2, but he has the decision making to play the towel boy.
I think Okeke and Goga, if that's who you like, can be had with the Rocket pick (or a small trade up w/JR's contract & the Rockets pick). Not sure that Goga is any different than Zizic, but ok.
So if Okeke is available at 26, how is he different than Hunter than makes hunter a 4-6. I am just not seeing that. They are about the same size and very similar stats. Hunter is a slightly better shooter, but Okeke a better rebounder. in actual play, I think Okoke was more aggressive, but that's based on a small sample. If we wind up 4-5 and we take hunter, I hope he succeeds and in fact becomes Leonard 2.0 (with better team loyalty). But I am not sure he is going to be franchise changer. ..
I am not arguing with you in regard to Goga/Zizic. They might be the same guy. Or Goga may be the next Jokic. I don't know. In any case I am not thrilled with 4-5-6..
The draft is all about elephant hunting when you are not already in title contention. Workhorse solid players are likely useless long term. I didnt like the Bennett pick at the time but that draft lacked any consensus that could reasonably considered the clear choice at the top. At least this one has 3-4 that could be keepers. And position needs to be irrelevant. If he is worthy of a top 5 pick then he should be worthy of moving others to make him fit.
Do you think he was a 4-6 pick before the injury? I am thinking he was not in the lottery projections..Okeke tore his ACL so that factors in alot to his potential draft position. If he comes out, teams can't work him out. His rookie season will be lost and it will be one less year to develop then evaluate him for his next contract. He probably won't be fully himself till halfway thru his second year.
So if Okeke is available at 26, how is he different than Hunter than makes hunter a 4-6. I am just not seeing that. They are about the same size and very similar stats. Hunter is a slightly better shooter, but Okeke a better rebounder. in actual play, I think Okoke was more aggressive, but that's based on a small sample. If we wind up 4-5 and we take hunter, I hope he succeeds and in fact becomes Leonard 2.0 (with better team loyalty). But I am not sure he is going to be franchise changer. ..
I am not arguing with you in regard to Goga/Zizic. They might be the same guy. Or Goga may be the next Jokic. I don't know. In any case I am not thrilled with 4-5-6..
I see real NBA skills that translate to the NBA from Hunter and White. Hunter uses his size inside to slash and gets right to the rim. How good of a shooter he is can't be discounted. Unlike Hood, he makes quick decision and his shot selection is what you want for a NBA player.
White to me looks like a 6'5 version of Sexton. He seems to have better handles than Sexton and is more willing to shoot off the dribble from 3. White might be a slightly more natural PG than Sexton but is similar that they are both attack and score first guards. Sexton is quicker and if paired together he probably would be the one that scores off the ball more. Sexton and Ja Morant seem like a better pairing on the offensive side but Sexton and White would be the better pairing on the defensive side since White is 6'5.
I think White and Hunter are my 4 and 5 pick right now. I don't like Culver's game. I think he has a ceiling of Demar DeRozan but the chances of him hitting that is small. Culver plays ugly and I think he will be streaky but won't play bad enough to ever completely change his game, similar to Jordan Clarkson.
2013 draft Cavs had #1 pick took Bennett the biggest bust ever meanwhile one of the best players in the game went at the #15 pick. Had the Cavs taken the Bucks superstar we probably would have won multiple championships and LeBron and Kyrie would still be here.
yeah, but no one had Giannis in the top 5, let alone #1 overall. Of the people in consideration for the top pick, Dipo *probably* should have been the pick but he took years to develop and his fit with Kyrie and LeBron is questionable.
it’s like bashing the T-wolves for taking busy Derrick Williams. Back then he was THE consensus #2 in the draft (some say should have went #1).
But your point of Bennett being turrible is taken. Grant was such a shitty drafter
I like Dylan Windler at 26. He is a 6' 8" guard that puts up 21pts 10rebs 2.5ast 1.4stl
Has a step back 3 he often takes from nba range and better shooting almost 43%. Doesn't need a lot of time to get his shot off. 54% from the field. Over 60% 2pt and 84% from the line
Shame on me for saying this but I see a lot of Curry in those 3s.