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Ugly game between 2 bad teams. Some plays just had me laughing. Nice to get the win but nothing to get excited about. Browns still look like a 4-12 team.

I agree about Randy Moss. It's pathetic how he is giving no effort out there and obviously doesn't care. Raiders should bench him to try to wake him up.

Frye looks like an average middle of the pack NFL QB. I don't think he'll be terrible but he's going to need a lot of talent around him to win big. He's not a QB who can carry a team at the championship level. I do like some things he can do and he is showing he can be a starting caliber QB.
There's no excuse for lobbing a pass back towards the middle of the field though and getting it picked off in the end zone. HS QB's know better than to not do that.

Wimbley looks like he's going to be a stud and a big time pass rusher that the Browns have needed. He should only get better as he continues to adjust to the move to OLB.
 
NarlCavs said:
Ugly game between 2 bad teams. Some plays just had me laughing.
How about Fraser's sack? I've never seen that. I've never seen the center snap the ball, no wistle is blown, and yet none of the linemen block anyone, including the center!
 
Style said:
How about Fraser's sack? I've never seen that. I've never seen the center snap the ball, no wistle is blown, and yet none of the linemen block anyone, including the center!
Oh god, that play was hilarious.
 
Simon Fraser 3 sacks..not bad for a backup DE maybe he should start over McKinley? Umm yes please.

I forget where I've seen him before...

OSU
 
NarlCavs said:
Wimbley looks like he's going to be a stud and a big time pass rusher that the Browns have needed. He should only get better as he continues to adjust to the move to OLB.

2 sacks against the NFL's worst line does not signify the fact that a player may or may not be a stud.
 
RonHarperFan said:
2 sacks against the NFL's worst line does not signify the fact that a player may or may not be a stud.

Your exactly right my Steeler fan friend had a woody about Ricardo Colcough and just look at how that genius fields punts.

Wait till your peeling him off of Roethlisberger..
 
cdt said:
Your exactly right my Steeler fan friend had a woody about Ricardo Colcough and just look at how that genius fields punts.

Wait till your peeling him off of Roethlisberger..

Only a moron would have had a woody about Retardo, i've hated that dude returning kicks hid whole career. Guy looks for the first guy in the opposing color to run into.
 
I wasn't basing my comments about Wimbley on 1 game against the Raiders. He's looked good in the previous games is seems to be getting better each week.
I think it's fairly impressive since he's still learning a new position after being a DE in college.
 
Not to mention he's been doing this all preseason too..
 
RonHarperFan said:
2 sacks against the NFL's worst line does not signify the fact that a player may or may not be a stud.

A non- stud definitely would NOT have had two sacks. What about his solid performance against a damn good line in Baltimore?
 
cdt said:
Simon Fraser 3 sacks..not bad for a backup DE maybe he should start over McKinley? Umm yes please.

I forget where I've seen him before...

OSU


He doesnt start because he is horrendous against the run. he gets gashed and pushed around for an easy 5 yard run every time.
 
A Mac aka The Truth said:
He doesnt start because he is horrendous against the run. he gets gashed and pushed around for an easy 5 yard run every time.
The problem is he's 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 DE, ie. he's not big or stong enough to play every down in the 3-4. Yet. It's only his second year, so hopefully he can get stronger. In the meantime, he's a nice player to bring in on passing downs, especially considering his cost (UDFA).
 

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