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Game 6 | Cavs @ Sixers | Friday, November 8 | 7PM EST

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Next year we need to make a draft thread where users can pick the player they want the cavs to pick at their draft slot. Then they can talk shit if their player does good and Grants player does bad. I'm getting pretty sick of reading all the players the cavs should have fucking drafted. Every day some new young player has a good game... and its "Why didn't we draft him over Dion?". Every fucking day in every fucking thread.

While you guys are reading box scores of players we didn't draft, can you tell me the lottery numbers I should have played yesterday? Thanks.
 
No going to win many road games when your best player goes 4-17.
 
Next year we need to make a draft thread where users can pick the player they want the cavs to pick at their draft slot. Then they can talk shit if their player does good and Grants player does bad. I'm getting pretty sick of reading all the players the cavs should have fucking drafted. Every day some new young player has a good game... and its "Why didn't we draft him over Dion?". Every fucking day in every fucking thread.

While you guys are reading box scores of players we didn't draft, can you tell me the lottery numbers I should have played yesterday? Thanks.

Lets never ever ever question Chris Grant's decisions because it makes cafemerald upset.
 
I can't believe someone just brought up the idea of trading Kyrie, almost just left RCF forever.
Some of these people are so fair weather. Love the moves we make and shout playoffs, isn't working out how we saw it so far now we want to blow the mess up and start all over. Maybe building through the draft isn't as great of an idea as everyone thinks. Thank god for this free agency class this summer. Hope we don't blow it like I'm expecting to.
 
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I cannot parse this picture, and truth be told, I am a little terrified by it.
 
Man this was a bad loss. Tony Wroten just dominating your bench is not a good sign

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Wroten has played well in all the games this year. Looks like he is becoming the guard some thought he might be. In my opinion, it is the combination of MCW and Wroten being a lot better than expected that has Philly playing like they will make the playoffs this year.

We played defense for 10 minutes in the first and six minutes in the fourth with the starters playing. We did not get much contribution from Andy, and while Tristan was active, he was not very effective offensively. Brown tried to play zeller, who clearly was not ready to contribute, and he shared the floor with Karasev who was also not ready. Bynum contributed offensively, but he was on the court for our worst defensive performance, which is not to say his fault, since he played mostly with bennett on the floor.

All in all, the team defense can be and is very good in stretches, but it is also terrible in stretches still. Offensively, Kyrie is less than expected, and earl clark, TT, AV, and Bennett are just not getting it done. I think brown will continue to dwell on the defensive side until he gets complete games and then he will start dialing in the offense. I think at this point he is trying to figure out which personnel are willing to defend 100 percent of the time, because those guys will get minutes. Once that lineup is understood, he can figure out how to optimize it offensively.
 
Wroten has played well in all the games this year. Looks like he is becoming the guard some thought he might be. In my opinion, it is the combination of MCW and Wroten being a lot better than expected that has Philly playing like they will make the playoffs this year.

We played defense for 10 minutes in the first and six minutes in the fourth with the starters playing. We did not get much contribution from Andy, and while Tristan was active, he was not very effective offensively. Brown tried to play zeller, who clearly was not ready to contribute, and he shared the floor with Karasev who was also not ready. Bynum contributed offensively, but he was on the court for our worst defensive performance, which is not to say his fault, since he played mostly with bennett on the floor.

All in all, the team defense can be and is very good in stretches, but it is also terrible in stretches still. Offensively, Kyrie is less than expected, and earl clark, TT, AV, and Bennett are just not getting it done. I think brown will continue to dwell on the defensive side until he gets complete games and then he will start dialing in the offense. I think at this point he is trying to figure out which personnel are willing to defend 100 percent of the time, because those guys will get minutes. Once that lineup is understood, he can figure out how to optimize it offensively.

This is one thing you can't put on Bennett, he only played 6 minutes before he got hurt. In those 6 minutes we got outscored 9-8.
 
Here's Jason's take: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland...lse&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Sixers 94, Cavs 79; final thoughts from Jason Lloyd

PHILADELPHIA: Final thoughts from Andrew Bynum’s grand return and another bad road loss…

* The longer Mike Brown stood against the wall and listed the things he didn’t like about his team Friday night, the more he began to resemble Byron Scott. For three years, Scott looked incredulous in some of his postgame interviews.

* Scott said his players did things in games they never practiced, they weren’t following the game plans, they weren’t defending the way he wanted. He said they’d go over plays in practice, he’d point out the mistakes on film and all the players said they understood, then went out and made the mistakes again.

* Now here’s Brown from tonight: “I’m surprised at what I've watched the last two ball games. Just the little, basic, fundamental stuff that we talk about on a daily basis we're not doing. Nobody has a sense of urgency to do it. That's what concerns me. We show the guys the clips on how they don't box out or how they don't get back in transition and they understand it, they say, ‘My bad’ but then we go out and do it some more. That's what's concerning to me.”

* Everyone wants to pound on the Cavs for their offense – and it certainly wasn’t good tonight. But this team will never win consistently until they give effort and defend consistently. They did a nice job the first four games, but that has fallen apart in the last two road games.

* Now is not the time for giant overreactions, such as insisting it was a mistake bringing back Brown or calling Anthony Bennett a bust. It’s six games, folks. That’s 0.07 percent of the season, or about the equivalent of one game (0.06 percent) in an NFL season. Deep breath everybody.

* Here’s a news flash for people who hate Mike Brown’s offense: The Cavs had the second-worst offense last season under Scott, when they also had the league’s worst defense. All of these problems won’t be solved overnight, but the problem isn’t the offense.

* Don’t believe me?

* Here were the 10 worst teams in shooting percentage last season ranked in inverse order: Charlotte, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Washington, Indiana, Chicago, Minnesota, Phoenix, Philadelphia and Memphis. Four of those teams (Milwaukee, Indiana, Chicago and Memphis) made the playoffs. Three of the four (the Bucks being the exception) won at least one round and two of the four (Grizzlies and Pacers) made the conference finals.

* Now here are the 10 worst teams in defensive shooting percentage last season ranked in inverse order: Cleveland, Portland, Sacramento, Charlotte, New Orleans, Phoenix, Minnesota, Brooklyn, Orlando and Detroit. The Nets are the only team from that list to make the playoffs and they lost in the first round to – wait for it – the Bulls… That team with the lousy offense.

* The Cavs won’t win consistently until they defend consistently. That’s the bigger issue.

* Brown started experimenting with lineups tonight and I would expect that to continue. Bennett’s shoulder injury (he doesn’t think it’s serious) forced some of the tinkering, but I’d expect it to continue.

* Andrew Bynum played alongside Anderson Varejao, then it was Bynum and Tyler Zeller together. Sergey Karasev played a few minutes to start the fourth quarter and Brown tried the three-guard tandem for the first time (Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters and Jarrett Jack). None of it really had the desired affect.

* Brown threatened lineup changes, but I’d be surprised if he makes any before Saturday’s rematch against the Sixers. Typically coaches threaten changes for a game or two first to try and get the players’ attention, then they actually start shuffling if the threats don’t work. The Cavs have played six games. Typically changes don’t start happening until after 10 games. We’ll see.

* The small forward situation is not good right now. The Earl Clark experiment at small forward is off to a terrible start, but Alonzo Gee has proven over the last two years he isn’t much better. C.J. Miles is playing the best of anyone, but the Cavs need him with that second unit right now.

* In a brief, anonymous poll of about four or five players tonight, it was a consensus that yes, teams that lose consistently can create a losing mentality, but none of them thought that was happening with this team. A couple thought that losing mentality crept in last year, but insist it’s not true now because the errors can be corrected.

* Nearly half of the roster turned over from last season until now (seven of 15), but only three of those seven are getting consistent minutes (Clark, Bynum and Jack). That means much of the same core is back.

* Scott often said last season the Cavs would act far too confident for what they should be. They’d play well for a quarter or a game and think they were ready to take on the world, and often it ended with them falling on their face. Now Brown is saying many of the same things.

* Former assistant coach Joe Prunty, now with the Nets, used to tell the players good teams are good because they play like they’re bad. They hustle and scrap after every loose ball, they defend on every possession. Scott used to say when he was with the Lakers he feared losing, which motivated them to win. This team doesn’t have any of that.

* “We’re good, but we need to stop telling ourselves we’re good,” C.J. Miles said. He’s got a point.

* Jack has not played well the last few games, but this is why they brought him here. Bynum is still immersed in his rehab and trying to get back to being some form of the player he once was, but Jack needs to take hold of this team a little more. Part of the reason the Cavs brought him here was his leadership, his grittiness in the postseason and his steady hand. It’s time he starts showing it.

* “(Playing hard consistently) is one thing in this league that people don’t view as a skill, but it’s the most important,” he said.

* Rookies. Thirty minutes before tip-off, Matthew Dellavedova was in the media work room getting some coffee. Guess he needed it to stay awake since he knew he wasn’t playing. He only had about a half-cup and said he doesn’t drink it before every game, but he’s been doing it lately.

* There was a minor skirmish in the Cavs locker room tonight postgame that ended with a Philadelphia reporter being tossed out. I didn’t see the whole thing, and each side is telling a conflicting story, but the gist of it is John Gonzalez from Comcast was standing in front of Bynum’s locker when he came out of the shower. The media relations staff asked Gonzalez to move – and here is where the stories differ. Gonzalez and a few other reporters say he did move, but the Cavs staff asked him to move again, while the Cavs say he wouldn’t budge. Regardless, Gonzalez said something about acting like a “tough guy” and he was soon escorted out of the locker room. Might have been the most exciting part of the night.

* By the way, I tweeted the same thing Bynum said after the game. Given the reputation of Philly’s fan base, it’s boo job on Bynum was pathetic. “It was funny to me,” Bynum said of the boos. “I thought it was a little weak. I thought it was going to be much worse.”

* There’s no such thing as a must win in Game 7 of the regular season, but I’d strongly encourage the Cavs to win this game at home tonight against the Sixers. Then it’s right back out on the road Monday and Wednesday at Chicago and Minnesota. The road on the road isn’t getting any easier.



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A few more tweets from him:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mike Brown hinting at changes b/c nobody has been consistent: &quot;I'm going to start searching for somebody that's going to be consistent&quot;</p>&mdash; Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydABJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/statuses/399017917901045760">November 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>More Brown: &quot;If I'm not getting consistency from certain guys I've got to give other guys an opportunity. To me it's simple.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydABJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/statuses/399018063925755904">November 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mike Brown sounds a lot like BScott, calming the overreaction &amp; J.Jack needs to lead in tonight's final thoughts <a href="http://t.co/ruZRvYBx9U">http://t.co/ruZRvYBx9U</a></p>&mdash; Jason Lloyd (@JasonLloydABJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLloydABJ/statuses/399059700081106945">November 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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To me, this is really disappointing. Mike Brown probably never worked with so many young guys at one time. The way I see it, we might be making changes very soon into the season not just with the lineups but possibly the trades.

I don't know how soon that might be, but I might think it could go into January.

I'm willing to give this team the benefit of the doubt, so we'll just have to wait and see what we get.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The season is 6/82 complete.If the season was a game there would be 8:30 left in the 1st quarter.Let's calm down,watch a bit more then judge</p>&mdash; Dan Gilbert (@cavsdan) <a href="https://twitter.com/cavsdan/statuses/399224119981400065">November 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Sam The Bullshit Whisperer was just called the "pride and joy of Fox Sports Ohio".

:chuckles:
 

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