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"The Reach"

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By Joe Starkey
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, May 4, 2007

If the Cleveland Browns really believed Brady Quinn was a franchise quarterback, they would have taken him with the third overall pick of the NFL draft last Saturday.

Think about it. If you have a choice between a franchise left tackle and a franchise quarterback, you take the quarterback every time, even if it costs you a bundle of cash.

The Browns took the tackle, Joe Thomas, then got silly and traded next year's first-round pick to Dallas, so they could peel back and pull Quinn out of commissioner Roger Goodell's private suite with the 22nd pick (couldn't Quinn stand the heat in the green room?). The Browns also plummeted from No. 36 to 53 in the second round as part of that deal and another.

Cleveland's tortured sports history already features "The Drive," "The Fumble," and "The Shot."

You may now add "The Reach."

This move reeked of a frenzied front office, one that obviously believes it must win now. In such a state, it was willing to mortgage the future. Next year's first-rounder might be a top-five pick.

Everybody thought the Miami Dolphins were going to take Quinn at No. 9. Dolphins coach Cam Cameron obviously knew better.

Cameron helped to develop Trent Green, and he tutored Philip Rivers in San Diego the past two seasons, so he knows a promising quarterback when he sees one.

He didn't see one in Quinn. Miami took Ted Ginn Jr., a pick many believe will live in infamy.
I say Ginn becomes more of an impact player than Quinn, even if it's only on special teams.

Plenty of others question Quinn's pedigree.

Analyst Merril Hoge ripped Quinn a day before the draft on ESPN Radio 1250. Watching video of all Quinn's throws at Notre Dame, Hoge said, was akin to watching "a bad ball drill."

Lots of completions, sure, but not many that put the receiver in position to keep going.

"It was like these acrobatic catches, down in the dirt, behind the shoulder," Hoge said. "He's very erratic in the pocket, very jittery."

Hoge went on to say that Stanford's Trent Edwards and Brigham Young's John Beck were better prospects than Quinn. The Dolphins took Beck with the 40th pick. The Buffalo Bills took Edwards, who was injured most of last season at Stanford, at No. 92.

When I contacted Hoge on Thursday, he didn't exactly back down from his stance on Quinn.

"It's not like you can debate it -- he really has accuracy issues," Hoge said. "Cam (Cameron) knows that. That's why they didn't take him. Cleveland made a big mistake."

In comparing Quinn with Beck and Edwards in various categories, Hoge said Quinn would win in only two: "Notre Dame and Charlie Weis."

By that, Hoge meant Quinn was radically overrated because he played for Weis.
Hoge was dead-on. After a bad year and a so-so one to start his career, Quinn's numbers skyrocketed when Weis arrived.

Did Weis tap into the franchise quarterback within Quinn, or was Quinn simply a product of the system? Cleveland won't like the answer to that question.
 
This was written in a Pittsburgh newspaper and the one source they quoted is a former Steeler. This belongs in the trash along with everything else in Pittsburgh.
 
Hmmm... this is shocking coming from a Pittsburgh paper and an ex-Steeler (Hoge). Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
 
B Mac said:
This was written in a Pittsburgh newspaper and the one source they quoted is a former Steeler. This belongs in the trash along with everything else in Pittsburgh.

Ha ha B Mac, we just wrote the same thing at the same time. I agree, this thread is "about as useful as a poopy-flavored lollipop" (for you Dodgeball fans).
 
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HAHA

Whats worse is Hoge last year before the draft said that Leinart factored to be a 2nd round pick and Vince Young would be a 4th or 5th rounder. I guess Hoge's opinions on QB's are held in higher standards than those that actually played QB like Jaworski, Young, and Montana. All those guys had man crushes on Brady. What a pure trash article.
 
Id have to look up the stats but I dont think Ben put up the numbers that Quinn did, while being in a weak conference.
 
Hoge is always very reputable...who could forget last year?

"These 3 QB's are overrated especially Young, none of them should be first round picks." "The best QB in this draft is Kellen Clemens" He was the 4th QB behind the big 3 to be drafted and hasn't played a down of NFL football.

Young goes on to win ROY, Leinart has some great games behind absolutely no line, Cutler sends Plummer spiraling into retirement.

It's very interesting to also note that none of Quinn's receivers and even his RB were drafted. Russell had 2 of his WR's go in the 1st Round in Bowe and Davis.

I know Hoge has this amazing fantasy where 11 running backs line up on one side, and 11 running backs line up on the other but it's not happening..the guy is an absolute moron...how this article is surfacing is beyond me.

The guy bashes the top QB's every year and comes out with the 2nd Tier guys going to be the better pro's and it just doesn't happen.

Is Kellen Clemens on Madden 08? Is he the reigning offensive ROY? No..but the guy Hoge bashed for weeks was. And if his opinion was so grand last year when he was on multiple NFL Draft specials why was his opinion not sought out this year? Because the guy is a jackass.

It's funny that this article is surfacing, when you take time to critique a divisional rivals draft when we get a 4.0 rating from all the major media outlets and spend more time discussing our draft than you do your own...you're in trouble. I guess Lawrence Timmons and that Punter you traded up for don't make for an exciting read?

It's like the Plain Dealer publishing a story like..."Dennis Northcutt rips Cedric Wilson"

It's a former player for a rival team...a player that no one even remembers making a contribution on the field dissing a player that dwarfs him in the talent department..****ing loser Pittsburghers..
 
Week #1.

Statement game on so many levels for this football team and its future.

I won't sleep the night before.
 
Can't believe anything from a Pitts paper about Cleveland.
 
Thought you guys would like a different "perspective" about the draft ;)

As far as Hoge goes, I really can't stand that guy anyways.
 
I dont think anybody likes the setup ESPN has. Hodge especially. I cant think of the other guys name that really gets on my nerves too, the QB that played like 2 games in his career and speaks like he is the best player that ever played the game...he always argues with Clayton.
 
Yeah, that's him....awful...just awful.
 

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