City does a 180... Lebron banner approved and being installed now

[Silky Smooth]

I want to say why not get W&G to get Dan Gilbert to help. It's not like we need money. We just need a big voice to talk to the city. Is this realistic?

[udilicious42584]

I wish one of us were Jack Bauer so we could just call the president of the United States cell phone and get this resolved within the next 30 seconds.

Since I'm not that person, I'll just call WKYC and submit a tip.

[Gimme Some Mo]

I want to say why not get W&G to get Dan Gilbert to help. It's not like we need money. We just need a big voice to talk to the city. Is this realistic?

Seriously?

[blank964]

This is really upsetting news, especially right before the playoffs. We just got to send e-mails and question why they'll fight for a billboard from a giant corporation (the state stepped up to keep the billboard after threats that it was going to be taken down) but won't allow something made by the fans? This struggle and fight to put the billboard up will be well worth it once it's hanging up.

[bomber]

If anyone finds any specifics in that feel free to post....I'm lookin' through it now.

Maybe

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/clevelandcodes/

PART THREE — BUILDING CODE
Title XIII — Building Code
Chapter 3113 — Outdoor Signs and Displays

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/clevel...art3_3113.html

3105.21 Sign Measurement Standards - http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/clevel...5.html#3105.21

[Silky Smooth]

Seriously?

I was joking.

[gijimbo]

It's possible someone could get a hold of a state representative or a state senator, sometimes if you get tangled in red tape with the local government, the state government officials can help you out.. I aspire to be in state government some day, and just by talking to a few state representatives, they spent a lot of time on constituent service anyway..

It's worth a shot.. I'm not from the area, but if you wanted to send a polite message over to a state representative of that district, it might be helpful..

[chumpclassic]

Maureen Kyle ran the story originally on WKYC.

FB: http://www.facebook.com/maureenkyle

E-mail: maureenkyle@wkyc.com

We should politely flood her inbox, and get this story out ASAP. Polite being the operative term.

It wasn't too long ago I watched a video with Drew Carey on reason.tv going off about the mess of zoning regulations in Cleveland and how hard it was for businesses to get signs up to promote their business. I guess he had a point.

I have exited the Lurk session to let you know I emailed her about this. Absolutely terrible the fans of cleveland want to express to LeBron how much they love him and want him to stay but the city of cleveland has to put a last minute stop to it!?!?!? Do they not realize LeBron is the only thing pumping life into this lifeless city!? Outrageous i say we contact all news stations and the Plain dealer with complains about this issue. If the city of cleveland looks bad enough on TV they'll put the banner up just to save face.

[cschneider27]

for all of you twitter users in here....

http://tinyurl.com/LBJBannerDenied Help us with this! Retweet this if possible #LeBronBannerDenied!

RT that if at all possible! My username is cschneider, you can re-tweet from mine!

http://www.twitter.com/cschneider

[chumpclassic]

Also Maybe if you have enough attention drawn to it you could get News Channel 3 or 4 5 8 to donate money to have the digital version on the Digital Billboard on 90. They can't shut that down due to materials.

[InBoobieWeTrust]

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/clevel...part3_350.html

I found something interesting here(I'd also read the part on Wall Murals, maybe that could apply).

Well, I didn't find it....my cousin found it...but he's in law school so it's all good

The City will not govern..

(i) Works of art that do not include a commercial message;




So, is there any way to cover up the advertisements from RCF, ILTH, etc...and just display the art work with "Born Here, Raised Here, Plays Here, Stays Here"? I think if you do that, then you might not even need a permit. I don't know if that would count as a "commercial message".

[Malt]

PLEASE - Let's not piss off a legitimate media member who is obviously behind what we have been doing. Windy, Finnan and Kyle are already in contact with admin and the mods... we don't need to make a big stink with them.

Now those of you who enjoy Cleveland sports talk radio, I'd say this is a good time to call in.

Sorry about that Randolph, but texting and e-mailing away. I don't usually get worked up about stuff like this, but when it's been paid for by the fans, for the city, and the city shuts it down, it pisses me off.

I'll keep flooding KNR with texts though

[udilicious42584]

Called WKYC and spoke to someone at the news desk (was polite and professional)

Explained the situation and our frustration as a group. Years of brainstorming, work and monetary donations from members. Told her that we just wanted to get the news out there and see if anything could be done about the decision.

Sounds like she needed to speak with a site admin though, she mentioned something about a release. Told her I couldn't help her with that, but our admin's obviously have their contact info and will probably take the appropriate steps to get the story out there.

Nice woman BTW.

[wuck]

The City will not govern..

(i) Works of art that do not include a commercial message;




So, is there any way to cover up the advertisements from RCF, ILTH, etc...and just display the art work with "Born Here, Raised Here, Plays Here, Stays Here"? I think if you do that, then you might not even need a permit. I don't know if that would count as a "commercial message".

Maybe you deserved those playoff raffle tickets after all?

It could have potential as a backup or temporary plan. But I think that fanning media outrage is going to be the best initial step since this situation is unlikely to get resolved this weekend.







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[Ignatius]

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/clevel...part3_350.html

I found something interesting here(I'd also read the part on Wall Murals, maybe that could apply).

Well, I didn't find it....my cousin found it...but he's in law school so it's all good

The City will not govern..

(i) Works of art that do not include a commercial message;




So, is there any way to cover up the advertisements from RCF, ILTH, etc...and just display the art work with "Born Here, Raised Here, Plays Here, Stays Here"? I think if you do that, then you might not even need a permit.

That's interesting...however, Glen said that the reasons given to him were 1) sign size and 2) material

2) material - if Glen is correct about his assumption of the Nike sign being the same material...then I have no clue why this reason was given.

1) size....here is some info on that:

(a) No combustible wall sign shall exceed 100 square feet in area except that temporary wall signs may be of combustible material as specified in Section 3113.16.

(b) Noncombustible wall signs may include combustible parts to the extent specified in OBBC.

(c) Parts of wall signs which are less than 7 feet 6 inches above a sidewalk, alley, walk or other public thoroughfare, shall project not more than 6 inches beyond the street or alley line or setback or specific building line; above that level, a wall sign shall project not more than 12 inches over public property or over a required front yard or side street yard.

I don't exactly understand the bolded, however.