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    Of all the wings in the draft, rivers is the one that fits the worst with irving. To score he needs the ball in his hands and we already have an incredibly gifted guard who does that already. Want wings who have more multi faceted games: cut well, shoot, defend, even post up. Don't want to get into another larry and lebron scenario
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    Yeah, and I don't really want a 6'4 shooting guard, either. At least Beal is super athletic to make up for it, Rivers doesn't seem to have that.

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    Here is a name for our first pick that hasnt been mentioned yet-James Mcadoo. If he can play the small forward he might be our man especially if we move up to 7

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    Beal was the only one who really impressed me so far in the tourney. Guy can do it all. Kind of a jack of all trades type guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mds View Post
    Yeah, and I don't really want a 6'4 shooting guard, either. At least Beal is super athletic to make up for it, Rivers doesn't seem to have that.
    this is my concern with Rivers as well. he's kind of a smaller guy for SG. he doesn't have much strength or leaping ability to make up for his lack of height.

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    There is a fine line between being able to play off the ball and needing the ball in their hands. We DO need more than one playmaker on the team. Hell, that's why we struggled so much with LeBron...he was the only player capable of creating. We can't have Kyrie be our sole creator and it IS beneficial to have the ball out of his hands at times.

    Beal isn't all that athletic but he is at least 6'4, maybe listed at 6'5 (lots of different reports but one says 6'4.5" in shoes, so he'd be listed at 6'5 prolly), and he's shown that he can defend at the collegiate level against 3's and sometimes 4's. So his size is definitely not ideal but if he's a solid defender then I don't see a problem with it. I'd rather have Beal's lack of size but proven defensive intensity over Lamb's stupidly excellent size but defensive question marks.
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    I'm not arguing that Rivers is better than any other options at SG. But, you definitely want the ball in more than one person's hands. Rivers should develop in to a big time finisher and I would be very happy if we ended up drafting him, whether it be this year or next year. Can still acquire other guards who can do different things (like Boobie shooting 3's/perimeter defense).

    I don't want a PG to be the leading scorer and the go to guy. I want the star PG to be able to set up the go to guy.

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    I love Rivers for someone, but not the Cavs and not in this dradt. He needs another year to show that he can play off the ball at least a little and also to pass the ball more.

    Next year if he does what i'm thinkin he can, he'll be getting the Steph Curry comparisons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Boobie" Gibson View Post
    Lol and what is it that makes him such a terrible fit?...
    He's useless without the ball in his hands, he scores solely out of isolations.

    Maybe he can change, but I'd rather take Beal or Lamb, who we know can play off the ball effectively.

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    Chad ford now has mcadoo number seven. wasn't in lottery before. Beware. Had a good couple games, but he's come out of nowhere recently. Don't need another pf anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by catfish View Post
    Here is a name for our first pick that hasnt been mentioned yet-James Mcadoo. If he can play the small forward he might be our man especially if we move up to 7
    I'll have to check him out again. I saw him early in the year the little he played IIRC ... and he looked like filth. He's playing a bunch now or what?

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    Jared Sullinger. Yuck no thanks. Everyone liking him should remove the homer goggles ASAP. He struggles against anyone with size, and it just so happens there are a lot of big men with size in the NBA.

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    We NEED to take Aaron Craft, trade Irving for a 2013 1st rounder and build around Craft!

    Get it done Grant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavsinFL View Post
    Jared Sullinger. Yuck no thanks. Everyone liking him should remove the homer goggles ASAP. He struggles against anyone with size, and it just so happens there are a lot of big men with size in the NBA.
    Im a huge Perry Jones basher, and even I would take him over Sullinger. Low upisde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlovic3Ball View Post
    Im a huge Perry Jones basher, and even I would take him over Sullinger. Low upisde.
    really? i wouldnt. sullinger has hit 2-2 from 3s today, and i think he could be a nice stretch 4 in the nba. i dont see his upside being as high as PJ3, but his floor is tons higher than PJ3s. you know what you are getting with sullinger: rebounding and a 4 who can hit jumpers. i think he would be great in pick and pop situations. makes free throws. if hes available in the 10-12 area i think thats kind of a steal.

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