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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by huber14 View Post
    Are YOU delusional? If I am a fan of another team, (lets say Washington) and they need a CF or LF to get them over the hump and they sign Grady for 9 mill or even 4 million I would be pissed. You said we shouldn't call him an a-hole for not taking less than 9 million. No way anyone signs him for 9 when he has only played a total of 104 games hitting .218 the last 2 seasons.
    Of course YOU would be pissed.

    But most teams realize those numbers are skewed because of injury. And he's a low risk-very high reward signing for 4 million.

    There will be a number of teams in play for his services.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    Anyone wanna bet Grady returns to his oldself now

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    In order to be his old self he would need his elite speed back, which will never return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjmac0815 View Post
    Anyone wanna bet Grady returns to his oldself now
    I wouldn't take that bet. I personally feel he is going to have a great season for someone else. My guess is the White Sox or Tigers

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    Elite speed was never really Sizemore's whole game. Never stole an exhortation amount of bases.

    Power and OBP at a non-power position. That is Sizemore's game.

    He can get that back IMO.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    I think Seattle will be a great landing spot for Grady.

    That team needs offense in a bad way, and he's a Washington native.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    Anybody hear anything about Carmona yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b00bie View Post
    Elite speed was never really Sizemore's whole game. Never stole an exhortation amount of bases.

    Power and OBP at a non-power position. That is Sizemore's game.

    He can get that back IMO.
    It's not his whole game but it was a pretty big part.. He could still walk some, but I don't think we'll ever see his power return to form. He could probably hit like 20 bombs in a healthy season now, but I don't see much more.

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    Anybody hear anything about Carmona yet?
    press conference to be held monday on official reports.

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    Anybody hear anything about Carmona yet?
    Idk man, but I sure hope we keep him around.

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    I think Seattle will be a great landing spot for Grady.

    That team needs offense in a bad way, and he's a Washington native.
    that would make Wedge's stache hairs stand up for joy.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    I believe this shows we are very confident of picking up some good players. I originally thought we would pick up Sizemore's option because his surgery went well and is expected to fully recover. We aren't picking it up. We have big plans now.

    B.J. Upton = acquire him via trade.
    Michael Cuddyer = we will be all in for him now.

    Fall backs:
    Josh Willingham

    I do really believe we plan to be very active starting now. I think we know our time to go for it is now.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    MLBtraderumors.com said this a few weeks back:

    "The Indians have just $17.7MM in guaranteed contracts for 2012, but that figure will rise to the $40MM range if the club retains all of its arbitration eligible players, as expected. If the Indians pick up the options for Sizemore and Carmona, payroll would be over $55MM before accounting for minimum salary players or potential acquisitions. Antonetti says he expects the Indians to exceed this year's $49MM payroll and accommodating both Sizemore and Carmona without a substantial increase would be difficult."

    Since it looks like the Indians are declining Sizemore's option, that puts the payroll at around $47 M after they pick up Carmona's. That gives the Indians around $23 M to play with this offseason. Let the rumors begin.

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    My wish list:

    Get a starting outfielder + retain Shelly Duncan
    Get a 1st baseman
    Get a 3rd starter.

    Go in that order and you have a solid contender.

    Rising out of the ashes

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    Default Re: Cleveland Indians Offseason News, Notes, and Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by sgm405 View Post
    MLBtraderumors.com said this a few weeks back:

    "The Indians have just $17.7MM in guaranteed contracts for 2012, but that figure will rise to the $40MM range if the club retains all of its arbitration eligible players, as expected. If the Indians pick up the options for Sizemore and Carmona, payroll would be over $55MM before accounting for minimum salary players or potential acquisitions. Antonetti says he expects the Indians to exceed this year's $49MM payroll and accommodating both Sizemore and Carmona without a substantial increase would be difficult."

    Since it looks like the Indians are declining Sizemore's option, that puts the payroll at around $47 M after they pick up Carmona's. That gives the Indians around $23 M to play with this offseason. Let the rumors begin.
    That's a lot of money, but what do you ... do ... with that money? Acquire mediocre players by overpaying for them? I mean, come on. Some people think if you have $$$ to spend you automatically put it into the team but what if there arent really any good options to improve the team with that cash?

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