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    Derrick Rose out against the Kings tonight.

    Here we go Kings. Time to make a push for the 8 seed!

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    Default Re: Sacramento Kings WE-PLAY-INDIVIDUAL-BBALL watch!

    GO KINGS

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    Its like watching the wizards. Both teams got great 1v1 players but are horrible teammates.

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    From Sam Amick:


    Kevin Johnson says "framework of an agreement going forward" to keep team in Sacramento. "I want to jump up and down."

    Johnson: "It's game over, so our community should be really excited." Maloofs contribute upwards of $70 million. Staffers clapping.

    Johnson speaking flanked by David Stern, Maloofs. Joe Maloof now speaking: "It's a great day for Sacramento...Our family is just so excited"

    Joe Maloof tells SI.com the family's contribution the $387 million arena is $73 million, but it doesn't end there.

    Starting in 2015, when the arena will open, Maloofs pay a 5 percent surcharge on all tickets that adds more than $60 million more over time.

    Joe Maloof also says contribution did not include any loans from the NBA. Other mechanisms - selling former arena land etc. - down the line.

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    Now, all that said, become a playoff team already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafemerald View Post
    I would be extremely surprised if we saw the pick at all. I fully expect it to be moved this year.
    That's like drafting a project and then giving up on him when he struggles his first year. You knew he'd be a project but you don't have the patience to watch him develop?

    The key to this deal is that the worse the Kings are this year, the better they can be in the future (high draft picks). They already have 2 possible future allstars on their roster, and can add a third if they don't improve much in the second half of the season. They also have some talent to package if they want to move up in a draft of trade for another young talent.

    It's 2012. Plenty of time for a real coach to arrive, some new talent, and for their current young players to grow before 2015.

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    If the Cavs don't win the lottery, let's hope the Kings do and get Anthony Davis. There's no way a team with a core of Tyreke + Cousins + Davis shouldn't be able to make the playoffs in a few years, or at least finish outside of the bottom 10. Even if they don't win the lottery, they will be able to add another quality player in the draft.

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    Good for them. The Purple Warriors stay in Sacramento. We didn't need ANOTHER team in the Greater LA area.

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    Bumping -- mainly for the pictures in the OP.

    I don't think he drops to 5, but wouldn't Thomas Robinson be a fantastic fit in Sacramento? Jimmer, Thornton, Tyreke, Robinson, Cousins -- how could they NOT be semi-competitive? Trying to be optimistic that we will see their pick...

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    Great morning to bump this thread:

    1. Former Cavalier Kevin Johnson won a second term as mayor of Sacramento, no longer just on a platform of saving the NBA franchise.

    Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson claims victory | news10.net

    2. The deal for a new arena fell through in mid-April, and they remain in negotiations. Anaheim seemed to be the logical destination two years ago, but Seattle or Vancouver remain the leaders to take on the franchise if something cannot get done.

    Kings arena deal crumbles as Maloofs back away from plan - Arena Issue - The Sacramento Bee

    Kings arena deal crumbles as Maloofs back away from plan
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    By Dale Kasler, Ryan Lillis and Tony Bizjak
    dkasler@sacbee.com
    Published: Saturday, Apr. 14, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 1A
    Last Modified: Thursday, Apr. 19, 2012 - 12:44 pm
    NEW YORK – Sacramento's arena deal is dead. And the Kings' reign in the city is once again clouded by uncertainty.

    The family that owns Sacramento's lone major league sports franchise Friday pulled out of a plan to finance a $391 million sports and entertainment complex in the downtown railyard. Then, reversing a decade of public statements, the family suggested instead that city officials could help them renovate Power Balance Pavilion in North Natomas.
    During a hastily called news conference in a law office overlooking New York's Rockefeller Plaza, a prominent economist and attorneys hired by the Maloof family took turns tearing apart the city's plan. They argued that it would place Sacramento on the edge of fiscal disaster and could be equally damaging for the Kings.

    Later in the day, Mayor Kevin Johnson met privately with the Maloof brothers for more than two hours. But unlike last year – when Johnson was able to persuade the Maloofs and the NBA to support one more attempt at building a new arena – the mayor left that meeting burdened with a dark conclusion.

    "I wish I had better news," the mayor said. "(The Maloofs) are now saying they don't want to do the deal, which essentially means they don't want to be in Sacramento."

    Speaking at a somber news conference of his own, NBA Commissioner David Stern said he was "extremely disappointed both for the Maloofs and the city of Sacramento."

    "I think that there's nothing further to be done," he said.

    As for the team's future in the city it has called home since 1985?

    "I know we've scheduled them into Power Balance Pavilion for next year," Stern said. "It just wouldn't pay for me to talk about anything beyond that."

    Now, Johnson returns home to Sacramento without a contingency. He quickly dismissed an idea floated by Kings co-owner George Maloof that the team and the city explore renovating Power Balance Pavilion, one of the smallest arenas in the NBA and a facility long derided by the league as inadequate.

    "If it was up to me, there is no way that we as a city would invest in that building," the mayor said. "If they want to renovate (it) on their own using private dollars, that's their prerogative."

    The City Council had endorsed a plan to leverage downtown parking spaces and garages to generate as much as $255 million toward a new arena in the downtown railyard. Stern praised that commitment, on par with what other cities have provided for arenas.

    "We asked the city of Sacramento to step up, and the city stepped up in an extraordinary way," Stern said in his press conference, which followed the NBA's spring board of governors meeting.

    In what was clearly nothing more than a handshake deal, the Maloof family agreed in February to contribute $73 million toward the arena. Stern revealed Friday that $67 million of that would have come in the form of an NBA loan.

    Stern also said Friday that the NBA had committed to contributing $7 million of its own, a fact not previously made public. The remaining funding – about $59 million – was to come from AEG, the company tapped to operate the arena.

    George Maloof, the family's point man on arena negotiations, said he has concluded that renovating the current arena makes more economic sense.

    "Why put the pressure on the citizens of Sacramento when we can all figure this out and maybe just do it at Power Balance Pavilion?" Maloof asked.

    Asked if that plan were feasible, Maloof replied, "You can redo anything. Trust me, I'm a developer."

    But that stance contradicts a statement the family made in March 2011, when a former Kings executive and the architect who designed the former Arco Arena pitched a remodel of the facility to the Maloofs. The family said they had listened to that proposal, but determined "a renovation of the existing structure is not an adequate solution."

    Neither the Maloof family nor their public relations consultants would expand Friday upon the idea of revamping Power Balance.

    Read more here: Kings arena deal crumbles as Maloofs back away from plan - Arena Issue - The Sacramento Bee
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    While this totally sucks for Sacramento, Seattle should definitely get another NBA team. Imagine how shitty they must be feeling seeing their young team that suffered through all the losing seasons in Seattle getting better and now competing for a title in another city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacCavs View Post
    While this totally sucks for Sacramento, Seattle should definitely get another NBA team. Imagine how shitty they must be feeling seeing their young team that suffered through all the losing seasons in Seattle getting better and now competing for a title in another city.
    Imagine? I've done it with the Browns..

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    From Probballdraft:

    Was told that John Henson looked really good at the Kings workout today. Moved well and would be great fit alongside DMC.

    Indications are that Sacramento wants to add a player at 5, who is a winner & mature. Locker room concerns seem factor into Kings decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuck View Post
    From Probballdraft:

    Was told that John Henson looked really good at the Kings workout today. Moved well and would be great fit alongside DMC.

    Indications are that Sacramento wants to add a player at 5, who is a winner & mature. Locker room concerns seem factor into Kings decision.
    If Sacramento is really high on Henson and T-Rob goes before #4 (which I honestly expect to happen), it could set the Cavs up even nicer if they want to do the Portland deal.

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    If beal and MKG are gone, I don't see a downside to doing the portland deal. Two of the players that would be left, especially if they take Henson at 5 would be a great grab for us.

    (I should have looked at the post above mine, oh well)

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    Time to fire this thread back up.. Slam Online has the Kings as one of the 5 teams likely to make a huge jump next season


    BROOKLYN NETS
    2011-12 Record: 22-44
    2012-13 Projection: 48-34

    SACRAMENTO KINGS
    2011-12 Record: 22-44
    2012-13 Projection: 40-42

    GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS
    2011-12 Record: 23-43
    2012-13 Projection: 39-43

    TORONTO RAPTORS
    2011-12 Season: 23-43
    2012-13 Projection: 37-45

    NEW ORLEANS HORNETS
    2011-12 Season: 21-45
    2012-13 Projection: 42-40

    I’ve been into this Sacramento team for a while now. Did they make me eat my optimistic words with their mediocre and often-lazy play last season? Yes. Might they burn me again this season? Most definitely. Will I hype them again? Yes!!

    Sacramento, bizarrely, is one of the League’s deeper teams. It’s true. Check it out.

    Guards: Tyreke Evans, Marcus Thornton, Aaron Brooks, Jimmer Fredette, John Salmons, Isaiah Thomas, Tyler Honeycutt
    Forwards: Thomas Robinson, Jason Thompson, Chuck Hayes, James Johnson, Travis Outlaw
    Centers: DeMarcus Cousins

    That’s assuming they let Terrence Williams and Hassan Whiteside walk. Slicing off Honeycutt and the inept Outlaw, that’s six guards who can really play, three forwards who can really play (and maybe a fourth in Johnson), and an absolute animal in Cousins.

    Sacramento is 10, and maybe as many as 12 or 13, deep. That would give them a pretty serious advantage if they could ever figure out how to use their best assets. Cousins is probably the third-best center in the NBA. Evans can play all over the floor. Brooks is two years removed from being the League’s Most Improved Player. Nobody knows what Jimmer can do. Thornton may be the best scorer you’ve never seen score. Robinson’s ceiling is sky-high.

    The list goes on and on. The bottom line, though, is the following: Sacramento has the potential to, in a year or two, be one of the West’s new dominant teams. The Thunder’s early progress was steady, and by that I mean it didn’t show in the standings, much like the Kings. But when they figured it out… man, they figured it out.

    Is an 18-win jump too big for a team which only added a solid guard in Brooks and a rookie in Robinson to a roster which didn’t need more guards or unproven players? Maybe. Do I need to stop asking myself questions and immediately answering them? Yeah, sorry.
    SLAM ONLINE | » Going Somewhere?

    Question here is if 40-42 is good enough for the Kings to have the 14th worst record in the league.

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