How Will Attendance Be This Season

[Oasis]

It would be useful if people who buy tickets would say whether they intend to continue at the same, or increase/decrease their attendance.

Personally, one of the reasons I've subscribed to DirecTv was their NBA League pass package where I could get all the Cavs games in HD; but I'm looking at dumping that and going with some sort of a broadband package.

I went to 10 games last year, and look forward to increasing that to 12 or 13-- possibly more.

Oasis

[wuck]

Speaking of last season having great attendance, is it common practice to make people re-up on season tickets before the playoffs begin, like Gilbert made us do in the Spring of 2010? Or was he just hedging against LeBron's departure?

It is common practice (not 100% across the board but quite common) in the NBA as well as in other professional sports to push season-ticket holders to make decisions early, or to to tie playoff-ticket sales to season-ticket promotions for the following year. Not all teams do this, and some don't have to (esp. in peak years of interest), but it certainly wasn't special to the Cavs in 2010.

[macbdog]

I see it being a real see-saw, with attendance taking a dive for no other reason than people aren't locked into their tickets like they were heading into the offseason of the Decision. I think for the better teams, attendance will remain strong, but for anything less... I think it will get sparse. I sat through too many half-empty Cavs games in the pre-LBJ era to forget how Cleveland supports their basketball team when it loses. The 'excitement' of drafting Irving and Thompson was blunted by the lockout nonsense. I am only going to venture a vague guess but I wouldn't be shocked if the Cavs end up bottom 3rd in the NBA in attendance.

[udilicious42584]

I'd like to think there is some connection between how bad the Browns are playing to the type of attendance the Cavs will receive.

I think people are looking for a distraction, and the Cavs are coming back at the perfect time. Our other team is hopeless, so I think most people will look past the lockout, and welcome the players, our experienced coach, and kick ass owner back with open arms. I'm excited that basketball is back, and I'm excited that Cleveland has a new #1 pick to look forward to. I really don't think attendance will take a nose dive. Plus, this city is starving for any type of action at all. Once that casino opens, the Q will be packed more often than not.

[Huber.]

Attendance is at 16,101 right now through 19 games.


http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

[Tornicade]

Attendance is at 16,101 right now through 19 games.


http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

That completely demonstrates why the cavs wont be intentionally spending the next 4 seasons in the cellar.

The Cavs do remain in the top five in local TV ratings. Which can translate into a boost in TV revenue when its comes time to renew their cable deal. Forbes has estimated that the NBA as a whole could see a 30% increase in their next TV contract. Locally the lakers new deal paid 5 times more than the previous offer.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J.../NBA-RSNs.aspx

Team	RSN	Avg. 2011-12 rating
San Antonio Spurs	FS Southwest	7.94
Miami Heat	Sun Sports	6.49
Chicago Bulls	CSN Chicago	6.10
Oklahoma City Thunder	FS Oklahoma	5.97
Cleveland Cavaliers	FS Ohio	4.91

[BannerYearz]

Attendance is at 16,101 right now through 19 games.


http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

We rank 20th/30 in numerical home attendance per game, 27th in home % of capacity. Interestingly, our road attendance ranks 8th in the league numerically and 10th in % capacity, and averaging both, we are 17th numerically and 24th by % capacity.

Other things that stand out: The Pacers still have trouble filling the seats despite winning, as do the Hawks and Sixers. The Clips still hold a narrow edge on the Lakers in attendance this year at home and overall, but are slightly behind on the road.

[Czvosec]

That completely demonstrates why the cavs wont be intentionally spending the next 4 seasons in the cellar.

The Cavs do remain in the top five in local TV ratings. Which can translate into a boost in TV revenue when its comes time to renew their cable deal. Forbes has estimated that the NBA as a whole could see a 30% increase in their next TV contract. Locally the lakers new deal paid 5 times more than the previous offer.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J.../NBA-RSNs.aspx

Team	RSN	Avg. 2011-12 rating
San Antonio Spurs	FS Southwest	7.94
Miami Heat	Sun Sports	6.49
Chicago Bulls	CSN Chicago	6.10
Oklahoma City Thunder	FS Oklahoma	5.97
Cleveland Cavaliers	FS Ohio	4.91

Not one person here has advocated this team be in the cellar for five years.

As a member of the "tank" crew, we have stated that a preferable, and realistic, timeline is top-5 this year, low lotto next year, playoffs the year after that.

Neither side wants this franchise to be in the bottom of the barrel for five years. I've seen you and several others use that type of rhetoric against us. Stop.

/rant

[Tornicade]

Not one person here has advocated this team be in the cellar for five years.

As a member of the "tank" crew, we have stated that a preferable, and realistic, timeline is top-5 this year, low lotto next year, playoffs the year after that.

Neither side wants this franchise to be in the bottom of the barrel for five years. I've seen you and several others use that type of rhetoric against us. Stop.

/rant

That is not the timeline presented when people are advocating trading Anderson Varejao.

Cavs have a better odds of making the playoffs than winning a top 5 pick. Cavs should be improved next year as well. Good Quality draft picks will certainly bolster the teams chances long term but the Cavs will have other options and pieces in place to make their own options . Not just wants provided to them by their win and loss record.

[CardiacCavs]

They'll average above 15k. We had the 3rd best attendance last year which was 20,112 (http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance). Sure season ticket holders already had their tickets purchased, but I don't think it will drop that dramatically. It can't get any worse than a 26 game losing streak last year. Now we have two more exciting young players to watch. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we averaged between 18-20k.

I was pretty close on the first guess... I'm still happy with 16k though.

[Czvosec]

That is not the timeline presented when people are advocating trading Anderson Varejao.

Cavs have a better odds of making the playoffs than winning a top 5 pick. Cavs should be improved next year as well. Good Quality draft picks will certainly bolster the teams chances long term but the Cavs will have other options and pieces in place to make their own options . Not just wants provided to them by their win and loss record.

According to what? Hollinger? This team has 0 chance of making the playoffs. That ship has sailed (I'd argue that it was never at the harbor).

[Tornicade]

According to what? Hollinger? This team has 0 chance of making the playoffs. That ship has sailed (I'd argue that it was never at the harbor).

I stand Corrected. As of today its 4.2% playoffs. 5.0 percent to win lottery. Which is the first time all season that has occurred. The probabilities report was develped by Justin Kubatko.

Also I didnt state that the Cavs would make the playoffs. Merely that they for the most part of the season had a better chance of making them than winning the lottery aka top 5 pick

[AvonCavsFan]

I was pretty close on the first guess... I'm still happy with 16k though.

I have been to most of the home games and there is no way we are averaging 16k per game...and there is very little inventory on flash seats, which suggest there are not many sold tickets not showing up. Have no idea how they come up with the numbers.

[Oasis]

ACF, I've been to quite a few as well, and 16K seems about right.

Oasis

[AvonCavsFan]

ACF, I've been to quite a few as well, and 16K seems about right.

Oasis

I must be going to the wrong games then. I have yet to be at a game where I thought it was 80% full, which is what 16k is (maybe the kings game when they gave away a ton of tickets) Heck, club level is rarely more than 50% full. Upper deck is almost always less than 30% full.

There are literaly entire sections of the upper deck that are empty at every game.