Kyrie Irving

[metalman213]

So does Kyrie being out last night's game hurt his chances of being Rookie of the Year?

i would say no especially because rubio had probably the worst game of his career.

[Rainman]

Lebron traveled

WTF?

[JawJuttinAsasin]

use a larger sample size then - two year adjusted +/- has Danny Green at 3rd best in the league.

This site has a 10 year ranking among many others.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking

The thing with APM, well one of the things, is that it can be calculated and tweaked many different ways. Only a few are publicly available at this point, but a few years ago there were as many as 4 different lists floating around. Some of those guys were hired by NBA teams and stopped displaying such data.

Here is his 4 year ranking

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9299

[Believeland-OH]

Royce Young of CBSSports put Kyrie Irving as one of his biggest 5 All-Star snubs along with Jennings, Harden, Millsap, and Laundry.

Kyrie Irving

He's a rookie. He's playing for a not great team. But as Blake Griffin proved last season if your play is outstanding, those things aren't supposed to matter. Look at Irving's 21.66 PER. That's top 25 in the entire league. And he's exploded over the last month too. He's really blossoming into one of the East's very best point guard and with the reserves just having two point guards, Irving has a good case to be a third.

It is pretty amazing all Kyrie has accomplished in less then two months in the league; already being considered an All-Star snub.

[Maximus]

This site has a 10 year ranking among many others.

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking

For anyone still wanting evidence that moving JJ Hickson was additon by subtraction...he is the 2nd last name on this list.

[RappSoda]

For anyone still wanting evidence that moving JJ Hickson was additon by subtraction...he is the 2nd last name on this list.

Love how Ostertag gets the Euro League treatment. No first name

[tristan+kyrie=$]

Looks like no Kyrie tonight or Tommorrow

[theSTEREO.]

Looks like no Kyrie tonight or Tommorrow

Yeah, Cavs signed Ben Uzoh to a 10 day contract, so looks like the Cavs are expecting to be a little thin at pg for a couple days.

I'm with Max though. DEF a good thing to have him sit out a few. Tack up a few losses, and get a little Rmon exposure.

[godfather]

My dislike for Wade has gone up. Even though it really wasn't his fault, for some reason it still bothers me a lot just because it came from that team down south.

[metalman213]

wade was also involved with rondos injury in the playoffs (which seemed far more malicious to me, kyries looked accidental).

[Kevalier]

I'm just glad that Pat Shurmur isn't handling Kyrie's concussion recovery process.

[Tornicade]

made a little chart. I took all the players in the nba with a 30% Assist rate (33) I then ranked them by advanced stat category.
Assist % TS%, Efg% USG % PER TOV% STL% BLK% TRB% . this was just a dry run. I didnt weight any of the categories and TS includes FTS EFG weights 3 pointers

so im missng players lke Brandon jennings and a few other point guards with less than a 30% but I can estimate their equivalent ranking without to much trouble if need be. I also left Jeremy lin on there for kicks. he really didn't have the minutes in 12 games to qualify. Of course a couple Small forwards and a shooting guard made the list but here is your top all around facilitators.

Rank	Points	Player	Age
1	49	LeBron James	27
2	75	Jeremy Lin	23
3	77	Stephen Curry	23
4	86	Chris Paul	26
5	95	Derrick Rose	23
6	107	Russell Westbrook	23
7	108	Kyrie Irving	19
8	112	Kobe Bryant	33
9	114	Paul Pierce	34
10	129	Kyle Lowry	25
11	135	Deron Williams	27
12	138	C.J. Watson	27
13	142	Tony Parker	29
14	142	Steve Nash	37
15	144	Rajon Rondo	25
16	151	Andre Miller	35
17	152	Nate Robinson	27
18	155	Ricky Rubio	21
19	157	John Wall	21
20	157	Jordan Farmar	25
21	163	Ty Lawson	24
22	165	Jarrett Jack	28
23	175	Greivis Vasquez	25
24	177	Jamaal Tinsley	33
25	190	D.J. Augustin	24
26	192	Mike Conley	24
27	196	Ramon Sessions	25
28	197	Earl Watson	32
29	198	Jose Calderon	30
30	199	T.J. Ford	28
31	240	Raymond Felton	27
32	249	Beno Udrih	29
33	262	Jameer Nelson	29

[Rainman]

I just hope Kyrie plays against Miami on Friday, thats the only win I care about all year long.

[akhan786]

Just wondering...but how can Ramon Sessions get multiple double digit assists but Kyrie can't? Is it lack of familiarity? Because I've noticed that the Cavs are converting a lot of Ramon's passes that they usually brick or bauble when Kyrie passes to them. Or is it Kyrie is not setting them up in their shooting pocket correctly?

[Tornicade]

Just wondering...but how can Ramon Sessions get multiple double digit assists but Kyrie can't? Is it lack of familiarity? Because I've noticed that the Cavs are converting a lot of Ramon's passes that they usually brick or bauble when Kyrie passes to them. Or is it Kyrie is not setting them up in their shooting pocket correctly?

Kyrie is still learning the offense. He plays on instinct right now. The timing and touch takes time. it just points out the difference between experience and inexperience.

Im not so worried about kyries assist.