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    Quote Originally Posted by KIrving15 View Post
    So does Kyrie being out last night's game hurt his chances of being Rookie of the Year?
    i would say no especially because rubio had probably the worst game of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elcheato View Post
    Lebron traveled
    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KI4MVP View Post
    use a larger sample size then - two year adjusted +/- has Danny Green at 3rd best in the league.
    This site has a 10 year ranking among many others.

    http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking

    The thing with APM, well one of the things, is that it can be calculated and tweaked many different ways. Only a few are publicly available at this point, but a few years ago there were as many as 4 different lists floating around. Some of those guys were hired by NBA teams and stopped displaying such data.

    Here is his 4 year ranking

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9299

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    Royce Young of CBSSports put Kyrie Irving as one of his biggest 5 All-Star snubs along with Jennings, Harden, Millsap, and Laundry.

    Kyrie Irving

    He's a rookie. He's playing for a not great team. But as Blake Griffin proved last season if your play is outstanding, those things aren't supposed to matter. Look at Irving's 21.66 PER. That's top 25 in the entire league. And he's exploded over the last month too. He's really blossoming into one of the East's very best point guard and with the reserves just having two point guards, Irving has a good case to be a third.
    It is pretty amazing all Kyrie has accomplished in less then two months in the league; already being considered an All-Star snub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JawJuttinAsasin View Post
    This site has a 10 year ranking among many others.

    http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ranking
    For anyone still wanting evidence that moving JJ Hickson was additon by subtraction...he is the 2nd last name on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    For anyone still wanting evidence that moving JJ Hickson was additon by subtraction...he is the 2nd last name on this list.
    Love how Ostertag gets the Euro League treatment. No first name

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    Looks like no Kyrie tonight or Tommorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristan+kyrie=$ View Post
    Looks like no Kyrie tonight or Tommorrow
    Yeah, Cavs signed Ben Uzoh to a 10 day contract, so looks like the Cavs are expecting to be a little thin at pg for a couple days.

    I'm with Max though. DEF a good thing to have him sit out a few. Tack up a few losses, and get a little Rmon exposure.

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    My dislike for Wade has gone up. Even though it really wasn't his fault, for some reason it still bothers me a lot just because it came from that team down south.
    If I sound ignorant, don't blame me. I post on realcavsfans.com

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    wade was also involved with rondos injury in the playoffs (which seemed far more malicious to me, kyries looked accidental).

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    I'm just glad that Pat Shurmur isn't handling Kyrie's concussion recovery process.

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    made a little chart. I took all the players in the nba with a 30% Assist rate (33) I then ranked them by advanced stat category.
    Assist % TS%, Efg% USG % PER TOV% STL% BLK% TRB% . this was just a dry run. I didnt weight any of the categories and TS includes FTS EFG weights 3 pointers

    so im missng players lke Brandon jennings and a few other point guards with less than a 30% but I can estimate their equivalent ranking without to much trouble if need be. I also left Jeremy lin on there for kicks. he really didn't have the minutes in 12 games to qualify. Of course a couple Small forwards and a shooting guard made the list but here is your top all around facilitators.





    RankPointsPlayerAge
    149LeBron James27
    275Jeremy Lin23
    377Stephen Curry23
    486Chris Paul26
    595Derrick Rose23
    6107Russell Westbrook23
    7108Kyrie Irving19
    8112Kobe Bryant33
    9114Paul Pierce34
    10129Kyle Lowry25
    11135Deron Williams27
    12138C.J. Watson27
    13142Tony Parker29
    14142Steve Nash37
    15144Rajon Rondo25
    16151Andre Miller35
    17152Nate Robinson27
    18155Ricky Rubio21
    19157John Wall21
    20157Jordan Farmar25
    21163Ty Lawson24
    22165Jarrett Jack28
    23175Greivis Vasquez25
    24177Jamaal Tinsley33
    25190D.J. Augustin24
    26192Mike Conley24
    27196Ramon Sessions25
    28197Earl Watson32
    29198Jose Calderon30
    30199T.J. Ford28
    31240Raymond Felton27
    32249Beno Udrih29
    33262Jameer Nelson29

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    I just hope Kyrie plays against Miami on Friday, thats the only win I care about all year long.

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    Just wondering...but how can Ramon Sessions get multiple double digit assists but Kyrie can't? Is it lack of familiarity? Because I've noticed that the Cavs are converting a lot of Ramon's passes that they usually brick or bauble when Kyrie passes to them. Or is it Kyrie is not setting them up in their shooting pocket correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akhan786 View Post
    Just wondering...but how can Ramon Sessions get multiple double digit assists but Kyrie can't? Is it lack of familiarity? Because I've noticed that the Cavs are converting a lot of Ramon's passes that they usually brick or bauble when Kyrie passes to them. Or is it Kyrie is not setting them up in their shooting pocket correctly?
    Kyrie is still learning the offense. He plays on instinct right now. The timing and touch takes time. it just points out the difference between experience and inexperience.

    Im not so worried about kyries assist.

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