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Thread: Kyrie Irving
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03-22-2012, 01:23 PM #3046
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03-22-2012, 01:33 PM #3047
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03-22-2012, 01:51 PM #3048
Re: Kyrie Irving
No one in there right mind wants Donald Sterling to do well sorry. It's better to have teams on opposite coasts do well or at least different cities. If you really believe in conspiracies there is simply no way Boston should not have gotten Duncan for example or a team like GSW (huge media market) not won a #1 yet.
Michael LewisThere is a tension, peculiar to basketball, between the interests of the team and the interests of the individual. The game continually tempts the people who play it to do things that are not in the interest of the group.
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03-22-2012, 01:52 PM #3049
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03-22-2012, 01:53 PM #3050Banned
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Re: Kyrie Irving
Why didn't he just have Knicks win the Blake Griffin lottery?
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03-22-2012, 01:57 PM #3052The Waiter Will Serve You
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Re: Kyrie Irving
I know we talk about it all the time, but it still fascinates me how great Kyrie is, and how people outside of Cleveland think his only late-game heroics came against Boston. Amazing, but he won't be our secret for much longer, after he embarrasses their teams in the 4th and they realize what we rave about
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03-22-2012, 02:08 PM #3053
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03-22-2012, 02:08 PM #3054..Dave K Is Dead..
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Re: Kyrie Irving
tempted to start a kyrie vs. lebron thread, i think its legimately time to start comparing the two... Kyrie is having head and shoulders a better rookie season, but do you guys think he'll come anywhere near lebron's stats and added value to a team? I haven't been able to watch many games this year so i can only really go by what you guys are saying and kyries consistent increase in production, but I personally feel like kyrie's upside isnt as large as lebrons (mainly due to steroid use and size; kyrie isnt getting 8 boards a game.) Kyrie obviously doesnt disappear in the 4th quarter and doesnt hinder the team with his style of play/selfishness.
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03-22-2012, 02:16 PM #3055Banned
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Kyrie isn't avging 5 rebounds per game like LeBron did in his rookie season because he's not 6'8, he's 6'3. But he is averaging 3.8 and been averaging about 5 the last 10 games. It is very unlikely that he'll catch up in his stat but 20/5/5 isn't out of reach and that's the first thing people bring up when talking bout lebron's rookie season and how great he was.
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03-22-2012, 02:20 PM #3056you wot m8?
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Re: Kyrie Irving
There's one HUGE difference (which you pointed out) and that is size.
Lebron is 6'8" and has a ridiculous build.
Kyrie is only 6'2" (6'3" with shoes?)
Kyrie's skills are something else though. The way he sees the game and is able to read the defense is something special. He clearly was taught how to play the right way (thanks pappa Irving!) and I never feel scared that he'll do something stupid.
LeBron also has skills (duh) but his freak of a body allows him to dominate due to physical advantage most times.
Also, it's comparing a point guard to a small forward (although LeBron liked to pretend to play point).
I just have a hard time really comparing at all.
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I've heard there's large asian population in asia.
really though.
let's get the stats already. (best i could find is chinese, but yao is chinese, so)
1 San Francisco California 172,181 21.4
2 Honolulu Hawaii 38,330 10.2
3 Oakland California 34,083 8.7
4 San Jose California 63,434 6.7
5 New York City New York 486,463 6.0
6 Plano Texas 13,592 5.2
7 Sacramento California 20,307 4.4
8 Seattle Washington 27,216 4.1
9 Boston Massachusetts 24,910 4.0
10 San Diego California 35,661 2.7
11 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 30,069 2.0
12 Stockton California 5,188 1.8
13 Los Angeles California 66,782 1.8
14 Portland Oregon 9,113 1.7
15 Chicago Illinois 43,228 1.6
16 Anaheim California 4,738 1.4
17 Houston Texas 29,429 1.3
18 Austin Texas 8,886 1.2
19 Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 3,402 1.1
20 Riverside California 2,985 1.0
that's 17th. ranking # and not % they'd be 10th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...an_populations
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Re: Kyrie Irving
im not comparing position to position but their overall impact on their teams.. at this point, i still say if youre going to build a team on skill alone, go with lebron because he has a way of taking over a game and dominating... we won what seemed like every single game for a stretch of 2-3 years with him and with no one around him... can kyrie do the same? will he be able to? Is his upside as great?
edit: and for all intents and purposes, lebron played point for us and rebounded like a big, the two aren't that far off other than reboundingDave_K in moderation in 2013
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