2012 NFL Draft Rumor Thread

[bob2the2nd]

Why? Without any predisposed notions about the way teams will draft, rumors, interviews, medical reports and based solely on watching tape, this is what a widely respected NFL person has. Even if you don't agree that's how it will go down, it's pretty interesting to note that he's projecting completely different rankings than ESPN talking heads.

because its not a mock draft, and it shouldnt be labeled it as such. its more like him looking into the future based on film and trying to say this is what the draft should have gone like from the stand point of 5 years from now.

[WellYouNeednt]

There has been almost no talk of Nick Foles on this board. What are your thoughts on him? He's going to be available in the 3rd or 4th round. He has prototypical size for the position. Good but not elite arm strength, 2-1 TD to INT ratio over 3 full years as a starter. Well above 60% passer in a big time conference (PAC10/12). Team leader, film rat.

The knocks on him are that he's slow. Poor mobility will cause him to take a lot of sacks and obviously won't allow him to extend plays. Arizona lost as a lot of games while he was there. He played a lot out of the shotgun vs under center.

What are the other knocks that make him a 3-4th round prospect vs. a 1-2?

I'm not into Tannehill anywhere before 22, I like Weeden but I can justified why we would go other positions. I do not like Cousins at all. Osweiler isn't all that great in my opinion. I have liked Foles for a while now and if we are going to pass on Weeden, he'd be the guy I'd target followed by Osweiler and Cousins.

I actually brought up Foles earlier in the thread. Honestly--from what i have viewed from him on tape he is my favorite QB [prospect in the later rounds]. I agree with your comments on his size. He should have no trouble seeing over a line and creating nice windows for himself. I think his lack of mobility wont be too much of an issue with the WCO. I have to admit--for some reason i have always been curious about the guy.

[MJA1080]

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/03/20/c...ack-conundrum/
@gregcosell

Seems like he just wanted to go against the grain for most of that draft.

[Doc Shakalou]

I realize that Cosell's mock isn't what we're used to seeing. I also realize that it's not really a mock draft, more a system of rating players based on their on the field play. The thing is though, Cosell knows his stuff. He and Mayock are 2 of the guys I trust the most when it comes to this sort of thing.

[B Mac]

Heckert may not even care anyway - if he may want Claiborne over Trent

Heckert would love Richardson going at 3 if he really wants Claiborne. Then, all of the mouth-breathing, casual fans wouldnt be able to complain about passing on Richardson if we took Mo over him.

Im actually terrified of what the reaction is going to be in Browns land if we do in fact draft Mo C over Trent. Judging by some of the uber strong opinions in this thread alone, I shudder to imagine how all of the non-big picture "fans" would take that decision. Yikes.

[RappSoda]

because its not a mock draft, and it shouldnt be labeled it as such. its more like him looking into the future based on film and trying to say this is what the draft should have gone like from the stand point of 5 years from now.

I think that is the goal with drafting. If in five years this is the list of players is on point, that would make Cosell a genius. For example, if Cosell was doing this in 2009 and mocked Clay Matthews to the Browns at 5, wouldn't you say that would be a hell of a call even though nobody else mocked him that high?

[RappSoda]

Heckert would love Richardson going at 3 if he really wants Claiborne. Then, all of the mouth-breathing, casual fans wouldnt be able to complain about passing on Richardson if we took Mo over him.

Im actually terrified of what the reaction is going to be in Browns land if we do in fact draft Mo C over Trent. Judging by some of the uber strong opinions in this thread alone, I shudder to imagine how all of the non-big picture "fans" would take that decision. Yikes.

I'm about as pro-Trent as anybody in here and will be upset if he isn't a Brown regardless of whether or not he is there at 4. With that said, I'm not going to be horrified if I must swallow a "conciliation prize" as good as Mo Claiborne. I just am pretty upset that if both he and Haden play to their expected potential, as the 4th and 7th pick in the draft should, then the Browns couldn't feasibly justify giving them both big contracts. That would suck. Losing one of them would suck too.

[kiji]

because its not a mock draft, and it shouldnt be labeled it as such. its more like him looking into the future based on film and trying to say this is what the draft should have gone like from the stand point of 5 years from now.

Who cares what he calls it? If he's projecting the future of players, is that not more interesting to look at than someone trying to guess all the picks based on what they think they know? Who cares about mock drafts after the draft? All anyone is going to want to know is how good the player is going to be. I just think there's a lot of interesting things there. Dontari Poe is not in the first. Floyd > Blackmon. Only 2 DT's, and Cox way ahead of Brockers. Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are behind Gilmore and Jenkins. I don't care about the correct order. Nobody will get the correct order of picks. It's the rankings and general area where these players go off the board that interests me. If you disagree with that, then whatever. To wipe your butt with it and completely disregard it because you don't think it's the correct prediction order, I don't get it. The NFL probably asked him to put this in mock draft format. I really welcome a different source of information instead of the same rehashed crap we've for the last several months.

[bob2the2nd]

I think that is the goal with drafting. If in five years this is the list of players is on point, that would make Cosell a genius. For example, if Cosell was doing this in 2009 and mocked Clay Matthews to the Browns at 5, wouldn't you say that would be a hell of a call even though nobody else mocked him that high?

that doesnt make this a mock draft however. this is him trying to predict the god damn future nothing more.

look this guy may be very well respected and he may know his shit but this isnt what he thinks is actually going to happen, instead its just a mess of his player ratings. he can call this whatever the fuck he wants to, as long as he doestn call it a mock draft, because, its not one.

[bob2the2nd]

Who cares what he calls it? If he's projecting the future of players, is that not more interesting to look at than someone trying to guess all the picks based on what they think they know? Who cares about mock drafts after the draft? All anyone is going to want to know is how good the player is going to be. I just think there's a lot of interesting things there. Dontari Poe is not in the first. Floyd > Blackmon. Only 2 DT's, and Cox way ahead of Brockers. Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are behind Gilmore and Jenkins. I don't care about the correct order. Nobody will get the correct order of picks. It's the rankings and general area where these players go off the board that interests me. If you disagree with that, then whatever. To wipe your butt with it and completely disregard it because you don't think it's the correct prediction order, I don't get it. The NFL probably asked him to put this in mock draft format. I really welcome a different source of information instead of the same rehashed crap we've for the last several months.

here is a hint most major draft analysis people have 2 lists their ratings of players (and why) and a mock draft. this pile shit, is neither. if you want to know how someone views a player go look at their player ratings, that should give you insight youre looking for

[Zombie dmhtfld]

[I.K.W.T]

Derek Anderson all over again.

[SanduskyCav]

Would probably look better with white Under Armour. Black doesn't fit well.

[Zombie dmhtfld]

Would probably look better with white Under Armour. Black doesn't fit well.

Hows this?

[kiji]

here is a hint most major draft analysis people have 2 lists their ratings of players (and why) and a mock draft. this pile shit, is neither. if you want to know how someone views a player go look at their player ratings, that should give you insight youre looking for

If you don't like it, just move on. Why do you feel the need to get spun up when someone doesn't share your opinion?