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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    Quote Originally Posted by WellYouNeednt View Post
    I am on board with drafting Richardson. Bottom line is our passing game really suffered from a lack of a run game. We had no balance what so ever. We threw the ball a lot more effectively when our play-action was a threat.

    Key stat with Richardson: 1 fumble lost in 614 career touches. Alabama official athletics site claims Richardson has lost 1 fumble since 6th grade. Love it.

    Lets get a dominant run game back in Cleveland. Smash mouth and a great defense should be the face of this franchise.
    Your first point is the best one IMO.

    While I'm certainly no advocate of Colt McCoy as the future QB for this team, one factor was undeniable from his rookie-to-sophomore transition. When the Browns sustained a capable running game and were able to set up manageable second and third downs, Colt McCoy looked like an infinitely better player.

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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    Ive been Team Mo from the jump, but always felt like I was in the minority so I am suprised to see so many people picking him in this thread.

    Both players are great, but Im taking the guy with less injury risk and a longer shelf life. I just want more return for my investment.

    Plus, Id rather have a dominant defense and then work on fixing the offense, which you can still do with the rest of the picks this year.
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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    Quote Originally Posted by cdt View Post
    Do you offer anything to the discussion aside from patrolling for grammar or other mistakes? It's one thing if you're involved in the discussion but it seems like you just pop in to make sure everyone knows your spell check feature works.
    I posted my thoughts on the topic on page one, sorry you missed it.

    And people confuse things like dominate/dominant and bias/biased constantly, and it's quite annoying. I have no problems being called a grammar nazi or whatever if someone learns how to use words correctly in the process. There is also a difference between a simple typo and using a word incorrectly. One of them isn't worth correcting. If you have a problem with that, oh well.

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    yeah, clearly
    Thanked you for a halfway decent troll attempt. God you're such a dick.

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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    I want the guy who carried his team. I like Mo, but if they pass on Richardson to get him, the Browns will have passed on a dynamic playmaker that can carry the offense in any weather. Not happening, in my opinion. Greg Fucking McElroy was the QB of a tremendous Alabama team. I wonder why Richardson met contact behind the LOS on 75% of those plays... Hmm.. Maybe because his QB was horrible.
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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    I prefer Claiborne but would be happy with Richardson if we don't take him. I'll only be pissed if we pass on both of them.
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    I think Claiborne is the right pick here for the long term of the team. It just makes the secondary so strong. It bascily like getting 3 players, as we can move Brown to SS, Ward, to FS, and allow us to have some depth. We will be playing a lot of 3 wr sets this year, having that extra depth is huge. Plus it gives are D-Line more time to get pressure on the QB.

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    The biggest mistake I see people making is assuming a cornerback has a much longer career than a running back. Most corners are on the downside of their careers at age 30, which isn't that far away from the end of the line for a feature back. They are both a young guy's position compared to a lineman.
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    DEFENSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randolphkeys View Post
    The biggest mistake I see people making is assuming a cornerback has a much longer career than a running back. Most corners are on the downside of their careers at age 30, which isn't that far away from the end of the line for a feature back. They are both a young guy's position compared to a lineman.
    Disagree. How many elite RB's have been shelved due to injury? A lot. How many elite CB's have been shelved due to injury? Not nearly as many as RB's. Plus, when a CB does lose a step, he can move to safety. Conversely, once a RB is done, he's sent to the glue factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damage View Post
    Disagree. How many elite RB's have been shelved due to injury? A lot. How many elite CB's have been shelved due to injury? Not nearly as many as RB's. Plus, when a CB does lose a step, he can move to safety. Conversely, once a RB is done, he's sent to the glue factory.
    According to a study done by a Steelers blog, the average age for an NFL running back is slightly younger than 26. The average age of an NFL corner back is slightly above 26.

    http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/06/nfls-starters/

    See for yourself. And when it comes down to it, the Browns need one of both in this draft. These are the two most demanding positions from an athletic perspective in the NFL, thus the two youngest by average.
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    Default Re: Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

    Quote Originally Posted by Randolphkeys View Post
    According to a study done by a Steelers blog, the average age for an NFL running back is slightly younger than 26. The average age of an NFL corner back is slightly above 26.

    http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/06/nfls-starters/

    See for yourself. And when it comes down to it, the Browns need one of both in this draft. These are the two most demanding positions from an athletic perspective in the NFL, thus the two youngest by average.
    But that's dependent on a bevy of factors. I will concede that the bust rate for 1st round CB's is probably higher than it is for 1st round RB's. But outside of the QB position, CB is the hardest position in the NFL.

    My point is if the median age for a CB is 26+, it probably has more to do with them not being able to keep up w/ receivers, reading coverages, etc than it does with injuries. With RB's, it's see the hole, hit the hole, extend the play. If the median age for a RB is 26-, it probably has more to do with them being injury prone.

    Other reasons to pass on Trent would be Ray Rice, Shady McCoy, Arian Foster, MJD, Michael Turner, Al Gore, Matt Forte, Ben Tate & Fred Jackson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damage View Post
    But that's dependent on a bevy of factors. I will concede that the bust rate for 1st round CB's is probably higher than it is for 1st round RB's. But outside of the QB position, CB is the hardest position in the NFL.

    My point is if the median age for a CB is 26+, it probably has more to do with them not being able to keep up w/ receivers, reading coverages, etc than it does with injuries. With RB's, it's see the hole, hit the hole, extend the play. If the median age for a RB is 26-, it probably has more to do with them being injury prone.

    Other reasons to pass on Trent would be Ray Rice, Shady McCoy, Arian Foster, MJD, Michael Turner, Al Gore, Matt Forte, Ben Tate & Fred Jackson.


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