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    Shields is that Charles Nagy type veteran who knows how to pitch, and I respect the hell out of that.

    But if they want an ace's return for him, I want no part of it. Much like the Marlins and their demand for Josh Johnson, if it's getting ridiculous...move on.

    I think the market has evened out, with some big names coming off the board already teams can be more active not waiting around.

    FWIW, I expect Dempster to be a Dodger by Saturday night.
    Manziel's reps also insist it's a hoax -- and he's never made a penis video on "It's a Small World" or any other Disney ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b00bie View Post
    Shields is that Charles Nagy type veteran who knows how to pitch, and I respect the hell out of that.

    But if they want an ace's return for him, I want no part of it. Much like the Marlins and their demand for Josh Johnson, if it's getting ridiculous...move on.

    I think the market has evened out, with some big names coming off the board already teams can be more active not waiting around.

    FWIW, I expect Dempster to be a Dodger by Saturday night.
    With what sheilds is owed the next two years compared to his production, i don't think the rays can ask for much more than a couple of decent prospects. If its more than that then you decline.

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    Josh Johnson would be very nice but not what the marlins are asking for.

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    He might suck, b00bie. And yes, he has had more than 11 ABs in the Major Leagues.

    However, that wasn't WellYouNeednt's point. He said they gave LaPorta another chance. They didn't. So, false statement. Because 11 ABs is not "another chance." Deny this and you lose all credibility. Admit that he did not have another chance. I won't even argue that LaPorta sucks because odds are he still does.
    I do apologize for the joking sarcasm CM. I was not very descriptive within my posts about LaPorta. All in all is 11 abs a quality sample size to make an educated decision on a prospect? Absolutely not. It would appear we are agreeing on this matter. On the other hand, in a situation with a player like Laporta-i feel like he has gotten every opportunity to show his stuff (last year in bigs, minors, brief glimpse this year). Sadly, [in my opinion] he has not shown anything to warrant an extended stay. This is more so with Kotchman's glove already at first. Do I wish he was a better and more consistent player? Absolutely. Right at this moment im leaning towards the conclusion that he is not/never will be-unless he can smooth out his all around game.

    Once again, my post was more on the playful side. FWIW, I respect a lot of the opinions of the posters in the Indians threads, including yours.

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    @TJZuppe: Scout from the #Pirates in the house tonight. Just speculating here, but may be here to get a close look at #Indians OF Shin-Soo Choo
    @TJZuppe: Pirates were a team that were linked to possibly having interest in Choo if became available. #Indians would need blown away to deal him IMO
    We want young retainable pitching...they have it.
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    Wow just wow at that package sheilds is rumored to return.

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    Although Santana's numbers are horrid, hes essentially costing them a prorated 11.2mm this year and 1mm next year (buy out)... getting bourjos and conger seems like a home-run deal for a guy thats 30 years old having a mediocre season and owed 24mm over the next 2 years. I want no part of Sheilds for that kind of package.

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    I would fucking love to trade with Pittsburgh.

    Their system is loaded with guys I love.
    Manziel's reps also insist it's a hoax -- and he's never made a penis video on "It's a Small World" or any other Disney ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b00bie View Post
    I would fucking love to trade with Pittsburgh.

    Their system is loaded with guys I love.
    Bats? Pitchers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Kinesis View Post
    Bats? Pitchers?
    Mostly hard throwing pitchers, but there are some bats too.

    I would give a lot to get Allie.

    Edit: Must have been out of the loop for a while, I guess Allie is being made into a hitter? SMH.

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    Uhh...right.

    Are you thinking of Taillon?
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    I would fucking love to trade with Pittsburgh.

    Their system is loaded with guys I love.
    I really like Josh Bell, you think he will recover from knee surgery?

    Seemed like 5 tool player before he got hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b00bie View Post
    Uhh...right.

    Are you thinking of Taillon?
    Taillon would work too.

    I haven't followed Allie's career too closely this year. I knew he was struggling, but didn't think they'd give up on him this early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro Kinesis View Post
    Bats? Pitchers?
    They aren't going to give up either of their two best pitchers (Taillon, Cole) for Choo.

    But the guy who comes to mind is Starling Marte, whom they just called up, who could be an interesting trade chip AND make an immediate impact on the Indians.

    Other guys who I like:

    OF Alex Dickerson - .286/8/72/.782 at High-A (22)
    OF Gregory Polanco - .323/13/70/.904 with 39 SB at Low A (20)
    1B/DH Matt Curry - .306/7/49/.879 at Double-A (24)
    OF Quincy Latimore - .241/12/49/.746 at Double-A (23)
    3B Erik Avila - .291/3/13/.823 at Low-A (22)
    2B/SS/3B Alen Hanson - .318/15/50/.932 with 29 SB at Low-A (19)

    The pitching, outside of Taillon and Cole isn't all that impressive. A few guys in Low-A who are OK.

    I think any deal with the Pirates centers around hitting.
    Manziel's reps also insist it's a hoax -- and he's never made a penis video on "It's a Small World" or any other Disney ride.
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    I really like Josh Bell, you think he will recover from knee surgery?

    Seemed like 5 tool player before he got hurt.
    So indicative of the Pirates luck, they spent a shit ton on him.

    But yeah, he's an assload of potential.

    The Pirates have a pretty deep system, not quite up there with elite teams like Texas. But certainly up there.


    I think in about ten years, we'll look at this years Texas draft class to be one of the best in history. They got some absolute STUDS, their Arizona league team could compete in A-Ball right now.
    Manziel's reps also insist it's a hoax -- and he's never made a penis video on "It's a Small World" or any other Disney ride.
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