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Re: The Brandon Weeden Thread
what a cop out response.
nice analysis b00bie.
what a cop out response.
nice analysis b00bie.
Haden - gets burnt by top WR
Ward - can't pass cover
Little - drops passes and can't run routs
Richardson - who knows
So we go Sheard and Taylor
except Weeden has a better arm than Dalton. I feel that Weeden can have a Dalton-like impact, but I think that the improvement from last year will be substantial.
I think they'll have a competition for it in camp. And I think Weeden makes Colt look silly.
I know he has a better arm than Dalton. I was talking about overall success and impact as a player. Bear in mind, he doesn't have AJ Green to throw to.
I know he has a better arm than Dalton. I was talking about overall success and impact as a player. Bear in mind, he doesn't have AJ Green to throw to.
You can try to deny the fact that a torn labrum and shoulder tendonitis is not a long team problem that needs a soluton.
You can try to deny the fact that at 28, there is very little room for growth and the ceiling of his prospect status is very limited.
You can try to deny the fact he is coming from an offense that relys very little on decision making and a complex system of routes.
You can try to deny the fact that almost no other teams between 22-37 had any interest in this guy.
You can pretend that just because H&H are the leaders of this team that they are somehow infallible to making a panic selection.
I cannot do those things, and I've said all I'm going to say about Weeden. I hope the Browns atone for this monumental gaffe tomorrow. And I hope that all of these negatives are able to be overcome and I'm proven wrong.
Go Browns.
I'd be ecstatic if he had that impact, but you nailed it. Weeden won't have Aj Green or Gresham. At this point in our rebuilding phase, drafting him seems like a lateral move. With that said, we still have 5 rounds left so we'll see how the rest of the draft unfolds.
There are a lot of good players on the board still, including your beloved Ruben Randle. The draft isn't over yet.
Interesting take here.
With their first No. 1 pick, the Browns found their featured back in Trent Richardson. I am sold on Richardson, and I believe he will start from Day One.
With their second first-rounder, the Browns made another big splash, drafting Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden No. 22 overall.
The Browns need a lot of help on offense, and none of the quarterbacks on the roster had clearly made a case to be the undisputed long-term starter in 2012. Clearly, the Browns believe Weeden can be an NFL starter at the most important position on the field. If he becomes a good starter, then this will be a slam-dunk success of a pick. And even if it fails, you can appreciate the Browns’ logic — their repeated attempts at finding a franchise passer have failed. They need to keep plugging away. Weeden has a strong arm, and his selection implies a stamp of approval from Browns president Mike Holmgren, a very good evaluator of QB talent.
But here’s the thing about Weeden: I'm not completely convinced he's the Week One starter. The West Coast offense isn’t easy to pick up, from all accounts. I’ve been told it takes three years to master. Colt McCoy, who has a year under his belt in the offense, figures to be Weeden’s primary competition in camp, and I would expect this to bring out the best in McCoy.
Now, the Browns could give the job to Weeden, making this argument moot. And if Weeden outplays McCoy — or even just plays him to a draw in the summer — the Browns would likely go with the rookie.
Weeden is no ordinary rookie. He will be 29 in October, and he came to college football only after a stint as a minor-league baseball player. Perhaps his maturity edge will shorten his learning curve.
You would have to believe that the Browns believe it will — and it may. That said, I’m not counting out McCoy just yet, as far as 2012 goes. He’s flashed some ability in his two NFL seasons, and he’s not going to back down.
I'd be ecstatic if he had that impact, but you nailed it. Weeden won't have Aj Green or Gresham. At this point in our rebuilding phase, drafting him seems like a lateral move. With that said, we still have 5 rounds left so we'll see how the rest of the draft unfolds.