The Oi
Ahhhh chachachacha
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Egotistical, which is fine, but completely jaded. You aren't right when it's all based upon speculation.
I said good day sir.
Egotistical, which is fine, but completely jaded. You aren't right when it's all based upon speculation.
2 things:
1) On the bolded, how is that info indicative of a front office failure? The only question I want you to answer is: Is it possible that the control desired was not going to be given to anyone that didn't previously earn it, which subsequently turned them off from the position?
2) I hope that the amount of coaches that are following Pettine are indicative of the quality of coach that he is.
Just so we are clear:
Mike Pettine is a good coach = total luck.
1. If the front office were in the business of hiring a glorified yes man who's coming here knowing his power will be limited, then it reflects poorly on the front office because that is a strategy which rarely if ever works across the NFL. If you're on board with them hiring or not hiring someone because the front office cannot bear the thought of giving up some power to the guy actually in charge of leading the team, then I'd argue you're setting yourself up to lose out on any top tier hire from the start.
Maybe so. I guess I just don't really see the reasoning behind giving power to someone before they've shown the ability and/or earned it.
I can list off the number of great coaches currently in the NFL who hadn't earned it either. But the best management can do is hire a guy who shares their vision schematically and gives them say into what type of players they need to acquire, then getting the fuck out of the way and letting him run the damn team.
In Cleveland, that seems like a fantasy which will never truly be realized.
I feel like that's power that virtually no rookie head coach in the NFL has access to unless they were a hugely successful college coach. Rookie head coaches have to earn that kind of clout in an organization. That's not an outlandish concept. You don't let a guy with no experience come in and take over a franchise. You slowly let him earn that power over time as he proves he can handle competently it in addition to his other duties.
And that's not to say he can't have input from the get-go, and a head coach absolutely should, even a rookie one. However, there's no evidence at all that Pettine won't have input.
Just so we are clear:
ANYONE BEING (For the browns)a good coach = total luck.
I bet if Harbaugh, Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick all died in a freak gasoline fight accident, Gase would have definitely turned down all of those teams too.
There would be a bidding war, so it'd be stupid not to jump at the highest offer.
I think he's just a catcher.
All snark aside...
He'd leap at offers for any of those teams. Great organizations with good to great Quarterbacks and a ton of ready-made talent.