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Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 : Cleveland Cavaliers @ Toronto Raptors, May 23rd, 8:30pm

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wremy said:
That's on LBJ to me though...be aggressive...get to the line...get Tor in foul trouble... Fuck it... 3 game series...2 are at home....team effort needs a big lift
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LeBron is shooting 64% from the filed. But has under 15 shots per game.

Way too much trust in his teammates. I said it last game. We had a chance to put our foot on their throats and Kyrie/Kevin crapped their pants. However, LeBron was still playing like they were having great games. We need just ONE takeover game in Toronto and didn't do it.

This is the downside of teamball LeBron. Sometimes he blends in almost too well.
 
Travis T Of Justice said:
I had to watch the game on delay. I just don't understand how we are 11 of 11 from the field to start the 4th with the Delly / LBJ pick n roll...and at that precise point the ball is taken out of Delly's hands. WTF Ty?
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Kyrie is our best closer.

The issue is Kyrie really needs to do a much better job on the pick and roll. Delly shouldn't be *this*much better than him at it.
 
The game was 50% lost by the Cavs( the defense was awful, you can't win by not doing shit on the defensive end).30% was won by the Raptors..both Lowry and Derozean made some tough shots, they delivered for their team..and 20% was given to the Raptors by the refs. As simple as that
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Roda doesn't have the balls to do that.

How hard is it for LBJ to get behind Lowry when they get matched up in the post? It shouldn't be difficult IMO.

This feels like we're playing a gritty expansion team (even though it's been 20 yrs).
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Delly wasn't in the game. Kyrie isn't going to get it to him. I haven't looked at the numbers but I dont think you can ever judge Kyrie by his numbers. He went back to his tunnel vision for large stretches of the game and it just hurts the offense even when hes hitting his iso jumpers.

You can see LeBron visibly frustrated when he cuts through the lane and Kyrie doesn't even look at him. He can't be doing that.
 
I really would have liked a question asked about Mozgov. I have to believe LBJ would want him in their with the lack of rim protection.
 
Things that must be improved upon going forward, no matter what happens this season.

1. Kyrie has to be a better pick and roll player on offense and guarding it on defense.
2. LeBron needs to develop a Malone like pick and pop jumper. Its really going to be needed to extend his career...
3. Kevin Love...he really needs to play tougher like he did in Minnesota. I'm not talking offense, just play tough. He should be a bully on the boards and strong enough to finish around the rim.
4. Tristan...uh.....phuck.
 
Gus Zing said:
Kyrie is our best closer.

The issue is Kyrie really needs to do a much better job on the pick and roll. Delly shouldn't be *this*much better than him at it.
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I agree with the notion of putting Irving out there; not necessary to stop running the set..

However, with respect to the PnR, Delly isn't being trapped on the ball.. Irving can't initiate the PnR with 2-3 defenders on him at 16ft (where Delly was running the PnR with James).
 
why is the nba subreddit so fucking terrible.
 
Ft disparity was 19-2 in the second half--not 4th qtr. In total it was 19 to 9, so TOR had 0 at half time. The total foul calls were Cavs: 17, TOR: 16. We got some tough calls and to go against us towards the end, but, I mean, Derozen, Lowry, and Biyombo played really fucking well. I am not going to blame the refs.

We set ourselves up for this when we came out like complete shit in game 3.
 
The NBA is fucking fixed and a shit league overall.

I love the Cavs to death, but goddamn am I tired of the bullshit that people like Casey get to do, and I'm tired of the SHIT refereeing we see in this league.

If the Cavs were not relevant as they are currently? I wouldn't have bothered watching the playoffs or any non-cavs series. It's that fucking bad of a league.
 
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