Hurl Bruce
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This is it! First pie gate and now this? I don't think Drumpf can overcome dry mouth gate. This is surely the week.
Can we have a different thread for all these right-wing conspiracies? It feels like there is a conspiracy for every single newsworthy action right now.
Franken is resigning because he SHOULD.
As opposed to the usual daily diet of left-wing conspiracies for every single newsworthy action?
He's resigning because of pressure from other Democrats, and the pressure is this intense because they know that he's going to be replaced by another Democrat. There's no downside to booting him. Same with Conyers.
If the Moore revelations came before the primary, he wouldn't have been nominated. If they came after he was elected, he'd be booted and there'd be a special election to fill out his term. That's what will happen with both Franken and Conyers - there will be another set of primaries, two new nominees, and then a general election for voters to pick new representatives next year.
But because the information about Moore "happened" to break in that short period between the primary and the election, there won't be another special election. There's just this election, and the seat would get handed to Jones by default until 2021, with the voters being told that's Jones is the choice they have to make because Moore is a scumbag.
Which is why I don't believe voters who say "I'd rather just pick again in 2018" are making an immoral choice. Being compelled to help elect someone's whose morality-based political views are the antithesis of your own isn't a "moral" choice either.
I hope he does destroy the GOP. It's a useless party that can barely govern while controlling both Congress and the presidency.
Yeah, I don't agree with the elect and then oust strategy. If their plan is to get rid of him then that shows that they believe the accusers and they believe that he's a pedophile. They'd be supporting someone who they think is a child predator just so that they can win the seat. Throwing their support behind him if they think he's innocent makes sense, but doing it if they think he's guilty is just gross.I don't think many Americans would be crying if both parties were broken. Ideally it can be pushed to the point where the major parties have to adjust to the will of the voters rather than lobbyists, but who knows what will/would go down if Trump got impeached.
BTW, I know he can't see this but I think Q's idea that the best option is to elect a pedophile and then hope that the party backing him will oust him (When was the last time that happened with an unwilling senator?) is morally repugnant. He's literally just saying that the seat is supposed to be Republican even if the GOP chooses a fucking pedophile. He's ignoring that many supporters believe the accusers are liars paid by the Dems. Somehow, it's a miscarriage of Democracy to let a Democrat be a Senator in Alabama, but not if Alabama elects a pedophile to that same seat. And it's incredibly naive to assume the GOP will do jack shit about Moore once he's in office. If he's still carrying the Republican vote as of now, then they made their choice. They are choosing to either ignore, excuse, or pretend away the accusations.
If you don't believe that personal morality should trump someone's political policy, I suppose that CAN make sense. In this instance it's beyond the pale. He, the leaders of the GOP, and our president are all in agreement that a single political victory matters more than morality. It matters more than the victims of a predator. Got it, understood.
BTW the White House stated that they don't have a problem with businesses discriminating against gay people. But you can just toss that one in the pile. Reminder, some people are so stupid they thought Trump was going to be good for LGBT people.
I'm going to have the unpopular opinion of completely siding with 'the cake maker' in the latest 'big' LGBT dispute.
I'm pretty libertarian in my views regarding what a privately-owned business that sells non-essential goods can and can't do.
I'm going to have the unpopular opinion of completely siding with 'the cake maker' in the latest 'big' LGBT dispute.
I'm pretty libertarian in my views regarding what a privately-owned business that sells non-essential goods can and can't do.
Yeah, I don't agree with the elect and then oust strategy.
pr: can we have another thread for right-wing conspiracy theories?
Qtip: what about... doubles down on conspiracy theory.
Its an ethical black hole.
The GOP is funding ads right now telling Alabama voters that Roy Moore is the best choice for Senate.
If they plan on ousting him because they think he is unfit for office, they are flat out lying to the people.
Gotta wonder what their strategy is for this. If their plan is to oust him that gives democrats in 2018, and it also alienates republican voters who would have their vote nullified.Its an ethical black hole.
The GOP is funding ads right now telling Alabama voters that Roy Moore is the best choice for Senate.
If they plan on ousting him because they think he is unfit for office, they are flat out lying to the people.
Cool for Muslim bakers to turn away Christians? Just wondering where the line is. Isn't that the problem?