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John Beilein: Continuing his education

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Grade the coaching hire

  • A+

    Votes: 13 13.0%
  • A

    Votes: 51 51.0%
  • B

    Votes: 30 30.0%
  • C

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    100
  • Poll closed .
Jason Lloyd is the worst.

"Cultural obstacles" didn't "doom" David Blatt. Jason loves to play dumb like he doesn't know Blatt was fired strictly and solely to appease lebron. Nothing more, nothing less. But hey, I guess he is suppose to keep the narrative going that Blatt was a problem, by all means necessary to make lebron look good and grind that ax that he had against Blatt.

I'm not sure what Jasons problem is, maybe he is just a lebron guy.. maybe Blatt didn't back down and kiss Jasons feet when Jason tried one of his media power plays and Blatt played it very well and Jason fell flat with his attempt.. maybe its a combination of both.. but I really couldn't care less what jason has to say. His opinion is dirt under my rug.

There were some things that were reported then about Blatt that made all the players, not just LeBron dislike him. When they got their first win, the players gave him the game ball and then he went in a rant about how this isn't his first win and he has done alot of winning. The players thought someone's first NBA win was worth remembering.

It's not like that was a one time occurrence. He would bring up the line to the media constantly that he has won alot at the professional level and won championships. It was basically his go to line in the post game press conferences during the playoffs.
 
Blatt's blatant misuse of Kevin Love seems to be dirt under your rug as well.
Blatt used Kevin exactly how Kevin needed to be used in that offense with the players he had.
 
There were some things that were reported then about Blatt that made all the players, not just LeBron dislike him. When they got their first win, the players gave him the game ball and then he went in a rant about how this isn't his first win and he has done alot of winning. The players thought someone's first NBA win was worth remembering.

It's not like that was a one time occurrence. He would bring up the line to the media constantly that he has won alot at the professional level and won championships. It was basically his go to line in the post game press conferences during the playoffs.


It wasn't "a rant".. he made mention that that wasnt the first game he won.. He coached longer than most of the players he was coaching was breathing on this earth.. with many accolades to go along with it.

Yet, time after time, the all mighty media disrespected him and undermined him and continuously tried to pin lebron against him and him against lebron with their questions..

but hey, all is water under the bridge.

btw, careful how you word things, "he went on a rant".. wasn't a rant at all. the words people use can shape and mold the perception of the reader. this little trick the media knows all too well. every word counts.
 
Blatt used Kevin exactly how Kevin needed to be used in that offense with the players he had.
Revisionist bullshit. Everyone on the planet criticized Blatt for misusing Love, whose play improved considerably after Blatt was shitcanned.
 
Revisionist bullshit. Everyone on the planet criticized Blatt for misusing Love, whose play improved considerably after Blatt was shitcanned.
ok, sure thing, bud. gotta run. have a good day with your angry bitter self lol.
 
ok, sure thing, bud. gotta run. have a good day with your angry bitter self lol.
Tyronn Lue got more out of Love than Blatt did. Let that sink in...
 
Blatt had more wins than Lue. That stretch after we got Moz was the best ball of the 4 finals trips IMO.

I think Blatt didn't do the best job with the egos, but I think he is a better coach than Lue. Lue didn't get a single guy to play over his head. Blatt had Moz, Delly, Shump JR playing the ball of their careers.

Once the players got their way, yes they won a chip and it was great, but suddenly tons of bad habits, guys thinking they could turn it on, and divisions in the team that couldn't be mended.

Blatt got a year and 18 games to show what he could do and he took the warriors to 6 games without Kyrie and Love.

I can buy he didn't know how to manage an NBA locker room and his ego did him in, but he was a good coach.
 
Blatt had more wins than Lue. That stretch after we got Moz was the best ball of the 4 finals trips IMO.

I think Blatt didn't do the best job with the egos, but I think he is a better coach than Lue. Lue didn't get a single guy to play over his head. Blatt had Moz, Delly, Shump JR playing the ball of their careers.

Once the players got their way, yes they won a chip and it was great, but suddenly tons of bad habits, guys thinking they could turn it on, and divisions in the team that couldn't be mended.

Blatt got a year and 18 games to show what he could do and he took the warriors to 6 games without Kyrie and Love.

I can buy he didn't know how to manage an NBA locker room and his ego did him in, but he was a good coach.

I definitely think Blatt was the better coach. Alot of the offense was Blatts offense that Lue just tweaked. I think Lue could build on the offense but when Kyrie left, he had no clue what major changes in the offense needed to be made.

I also agree it was Blatt's managing of egos and his own ego that did him in. If he learned from the game ball situation and just stopped bring up how much he won in Europe, I think players would have respected him alot more.

I'm not sure that after the Mozgov, JR and Shump trade was the best basketball they played. It definitely was the biggest leap of them getting better. I think the season after when they got Frye and late in the season and most of the playoffs they were rolling was the peak of the team. Frye unlocked another level that the Cavs could go to. It might not have the huge leap that Mozgov, JR, and Shump brought but it was a level up from before.
 
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Blatt had more wins than Lue. That stretch after we got Moz was the best ball of the 4 finals trips IMO.

I think Blatt didn't do the best job with the egos, but I think he is a better coach than Lue. Lue didn't get a single guy to play over his head. Blatt had Moz, Delly, Shump JR playing the ball of their careers.

Once the players got their way, yes they won a chip and it was great, but suddenly tons of bad habits, guys thinking they could turn it on, and divisions in the team that couldn't be mended.

Blatt got a year and 18 games to show what he could do and he took the warriors to 6 games without Kyrie and Love.

I can buy he didn't know how to manage an NBA locker room and his ego did him in, but he was a good coach.

The 2015 Finals was an unbelievable job by both Blatt and Lebron, but nobody gets any credit because we lost.

I do feel like Blatt was a good coach overall. Had he stayed, I don't believe he would have let our defense get as bad as it did over the next couple of years. On the other hand Lue did win a championship
 
Any word on who the other assistant coaches are yet? I know JB Bickerstaff but have any others been announced? We got rid of Longabardi and the other dead weight left behind by Ty Lue right?
 
Tyronn Lue got more out of Love than Blatt did. Let that sink in...

yeah, thats a great point.... (not sure how accurate that even is, though.. )

Blatt got more out of the TEAM.. let THAT sink in....
 
yeah, thats a great point.... (not sure how accurate that even is, though.. )

Blatt got more out of the TEAM.. let THAT sink in....
When Blatt was fired, Lue's first order of business was to figure out how to get Love involved more. Everyone who followed that team knows this. That's my entire reason for responding to your rant. Blatt wasn't fired "strictly and solely to appease Lebron." That's BS. Love's struggles also factored into that. If Love, LeBron, and Kyrie were all playing up to their potential, it stands to reason that Blatt wouldn't have been fired during the middle of his second season.
 
When Blatt was fired, Lue's first order of business was to figure out how to get Love involved more. Everyone who followed that team knows this. That's my entire reason for responding to your rant. Blatt wasn't fired "strictly and solely to appease Lebron." That's BS. Love's struggles also factored into that. If Love, LeBron, and Kyrie were all playing up to their potential, it stands to reason that Blatt wouldn't have been fired during the middle of his second season.
And thats your opinion..

You know how Lue "managed" egos? By letting the big dogs (LePrimmaDonna, and Kevin Love) do what they want. Kyrie didn't have any problems with Blatt. Blatt is part of the reason he signed his extension a little after midnight.

Care to share loves elbow touches and 3 point shot attempts with Blatt / Lue?

It doesn't matter if Lues "orders" was to "get love involved more".

Blatt was the coach and he knew his players strengths and weaknesses. He knew the tools he had to work with.. and the sum of Loves skill set was not needed to maximize THAT TEAM. This is such basic understanding. Its really ABC's of understanding maximizing team concept. This is something you dont understand.

Love can play multiple ways(you think Blatt didn't know this? dont be dense).. but for THAT team, it wasn't suitable for him to be minny klove.

In Minny, KLove didnt have no lebron james. In minny, KLove didn't have no Kyrie Irving. What the heck is so hard to understand about this. Not to mention the other players and their games around him on that team.. Blatt knew how to maximize that team. He knew exactly what that cavs team needed in 2014/15, so they went out and got him what he needed and they went from great scrutiny night in, night out.. to the best basketball in the game with the warriors in the same league, over night.

but hey, if hating Blatt and his success makes you sleep better at night, knock yourself out. but miss me with your non sense.
 
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Blatt got fired because LeBron emasculated him multiple times. Literally changing plays, defying him in terms of roster or strategic decisions and played so badly at times on the defensive end that it became embarrassing when Blatt didn’t call him out during film sessions. Blatt wasn’t perfect and didn’t ingratiate himself to the team initially by being happy about his first win or saying some weird stuff about fighter pilots.

LeBron didn’t respect him and wasn’t engaged enough so Griffin calculated that a drop off from role players was worth a fully engaged LeBron hence firing Blatt at 30-11. It was a shortsighted move but that’s the only vision LeBron and Griffin cared about and in the end it won a title so it’s hard to dispute. In a perfect world LeBron humbles himself under Blatt, Love is traded for pieces that fit better around LeBron/Kyrie and remaining role players are fully maximized and we’re winning at least 2 titles and going for our third this season. Oh well.
 
I will give JC some credit last season. I thought as a player he actually grew at the end of the year vs the beginning. He will always be what he is - a talented scorer- but I thought his feel for the game improved as the season went along.

He was someone I screamed at more than anyone for his poor shot selection even when they went in. Maybe with Love around though, he was able to move the basketball with a sense it would come back? I am off the mindset of you not giving up assets unless you get better one's. Maybe Beilein can help unlock all the talent this guy has and make him see how much better he could be. I wouldn't bank on it.
I still think clarkson will be gone at the deadline. Hopefully beilein can coach him up to look more attractive
Really want to see what beilein can do with chrisse and knight.
 

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