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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 14 8.8%

  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.9%

  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.5%

  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 25.2%

  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.8%

  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.6%

  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.9%

  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.3%

  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.2%
  • Total voters
    159
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
I'd much rather talk about the ability Lillard has to hit a three off the dribble from range beyond the three-point arc. Other players possess this talent, and it looks like Garland may have that talent as well. That talent has translated really well into increased offense because of the spacing it provides. Defenses have to pay attention to your ball handler well above the arc. That talent forces opposing defenses to commit to pick and rolls differently. Then, how does that facet of your game open up another facet, like the ability to play off a pick and roll via penetrating, passing, or any other option? Do we even think Garland will succeed off pick and rolls, or will he struggle like Sexton did last year?

Maybe it's the old curmudgeon in me, but that's the sort of dialog I want to try and steer the conversation towards. It's stimulating, informative, quality discussion. Sure, give me a player comp as a high level narrative at the beginning of the draft process, but now that we know the handful of guys we're talking about, page after page of player comps feels lazy.
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I’m having visions of garland dropping game winning buzzer beaters from the logo
 
rcj47 said:
The link below is for an interview with Garland's college coach. It is just one person's opinion but he is very high on his passing ability.

923thefan.radio.com

Bryce Drew:Darius Garland is a pure PG that does a good job of balancing passing and scoring

Former Vanderbilt head coach Bryce Drew joined Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to talk about Cleveland Cavaliers top draft pick Darius Garland and share some insight on the former Commodores gaurd.
923thefan.radio.com 923thefan.radio.com
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It's not just him. Everyone who has coached him in any capacity from AAU to HS to College has said that he's a great passer. Again, it doesn't guarantee that he will make it work in the NBA, but it is at least comforting that most of the people who spent extensive time with him developing his game consider it to be a strong part of his playstyle.
 
blommen said:
It's not just him. Everyone who has coached him in any capacity from AAU to HS to College has said that he's a great passer. Again, it doesn't guarantee that he will make it work in the NBA, but it is at least comforting that most of the people who spent extensive time with him developing his game consider it to be a strong part of his playstyle.
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Yes there are plenty of things guys are better at in lower levels and can't build on. He didn't really show it in limited college games, so we don't know how to assess until we see it on the court.
 
The best hopes left for us, after Bron's leaving, was Collin.

Geting out of this draft questioning his future and fit, it's just bitter.

I know all that Garland's upside bullshit, but I just don't got it. I mean, there was a lot of areas that we could focus, why bring questions on the best promising we had til there?

Hope I'm wrong
 
Matheus Lopes said:
The best hopes left for us, after Bron's leaving, was Collin.

Geting out of this draft questioning his future and fit, it's just bitter.

I know all that Garland's upside bullshit, but I just don't got it. I mean, there was a lot of areas that we could focus, why bring questions on the best promising we had til there?

Hope I'm wrong
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I don't believe it is an indictment against Sexton. It's just we took who we thought was the best player. If anything, they are a safety valve for each other if it doesn't work and we can choose what to do.
 
Matheus Lopes said:
The best hopes left for us, after Bron's leaving, was Collin.

Geting out of this draft questioning his future and fit, it's just bitter.

I know all that Garland's upside bullshit, but I just don't got it. I mean, there was a lot of areas that we could focus, why bring questions on the best promising we had til there?

Hope I'm wrong
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I am coming around on it, but yeah I totally get it. Feels bad taking a pg after Collin finished the year looking so good. The other bad thing is that pg is the strongest position in next year's draft and there are some big pg's that would fit nicely with Sexton. Do we take BPA next year if they are a pg? Seems like that reasoning starts to break down on 3 years in a row, but not 2.

I'd love for this to shake out organically, or just have Garland and Sexton to have some chemistry and we just say FU to defense for a couple of years.
 
Cavatt said:
I am coming around on it, but yeah I totally get it. Feels bad taking a pg after Collin finished the year looking so good. The other bad thing is that pg is the strongest position in next year's draft and there are some big pg's that would fit nicely with Sexton. Do we take BPA next year if they are a pg? Seems like that reasoning starts to break down on 3 years in a row, but not 2.

I'd love for this to shake out organically, or just have Garland and Sexton to have some chemistry and we just say FU to defense for a couple of years.
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I get this... I do.

I also just think Sexton has amazing potential as a two-guard. He's really long and a great shooter.

Defense will be a problem... That has been my issue since draft day. I do not know how they will make this fit defensively, and frankly, I am not sure the Cavs really cared.

I am just excited to watch this team. I think they'll have a very entertaining offense and, between our two guards, the team will always be able to attack another team's defensive weak point.
 
I honestly expected Sexton to have a huge 2nd year, but with Garland it becomes quite dicey.

To me, Sexton's 2nd year is of much greater importance than Garland's rookie season. For that reason, I believe we need to put the ball in Sexton's hands even if the end goal is to have it in Garland's hands more. I don't believe it is wise to take Sexton's freedom this season if we want to maximize his 2nd year growth. Although there are downsides to it if it's not in our future plan to have him as a lead guard.

I believe in Garland's talent, but no matter how you slice it, its going to be difficult and we need to be extra careful to not damage their growth and Sexton's in particular.
 
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