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Lee said:
We have bigger needs than keeping Higgins to be honest. We would have to use Jarvis savings to keep Njoku, Myles,, maybe Schobert, eventually Baker, Ward and Chubb.

We will need to wait for the new CBA, but our own draft picks are about to get expensive because we have been picking well.
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I agree that Higgins is unnecessary. But, so are Schobert and Njoku, at least as of their play so far.

Njoku has all the talent in the world, but he’s inconsistent and has not developed as a blocker.

I actually think Schobert is really good, but is he that much better than cheaper alternatives? I’m not sure.

Randall is a really, really good coverage safety. My guess is he’s the first guy we try to re-sign this summer.
 
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Lee said:
That really doesn't count. The punter is almost always the holder. He isn't really backing up 2 spots.
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Randolphkeys said:
One stipulation I'd add is that we may have some restructuring candidates this offseason, if they want to stay with the team and were already overpaid during that first surge of signings under Dorsey.

I know restructuring is a baffling and new situation for Browns fans, but it happens on good teams.
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MoFlo said:
Yep. Among others, I can easily see a Jarvis restructuring coming next off-season and using some of the saved $ to keep Higgins around.

Higgins seems to really like it here and there's no denying the chemistry him & Baker have.
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Lee said:
We have bigger needs than keeping Higgins to be honest. We would have to use Jarvis savings to keep Njoku, Myles,, maybe Schobert, eventually Baker, Ward and Chubb.

We will need to wait for the new CBA, but our own draft picks are about to get expensive because we have been picking well.
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It's interesting because the only financial numbers we've thought about much before are the "Browns taxes" of having to overpay to acquire and retain FAs.

We can only hope the pendulum swings towards our team taking more hometown/winners' discounts.

One other sales point that will matter, when every dollar counts with the cap, is that a million dollars goes a lot further here than it does in NYC/LA/BOS/etc.

Unfortunately, EmWilk doesn't have the income level to allow Baker to take the Giselle Discount...
 
6.19.2016 said:
It's interesting because the only financial numbers we've thought about much before are the "Browns taxes" of having to overpay to acquire and retain FAs.

We can only hope the pendulum swings towards our team taking more hometown/winners' discounts.

One other sales point that will matter, when every dollar counts with the cap, is that a million dollars goes a lot further here than it does in NYC/LA/BOS/etc.

Unfortunately, EmWilk doesn't have the income level to allow Baker to take the Giselle Discount...
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I am not saying we arent going to get any discounts to keep players, but Higgins being a 3rd/4th here might be career suicide to remain if he can get 1/2 money and opportunity elsewhere. For example, would he go to NOLA to be the 2nd there and at 2 million more a year? Most of us agree Higgins is good enough to be a #2 receiver, #1 on a few teams, that opportunity might be to great, no receiver is ever going to make a probowl as a #3
 
Lee said:
I am not saying we arent going to get any discounts to keep players, but Higgins being a 3rd/4th here might be career suicide to remain if he can get 1/2 money and opportunity elsewhere. For example, would he go to NOLA to be the 2nd there and at 2 million more a year? Most of us agree Higgins is good enough to be a #2 receiver, #1 on a few teams, that opportunity might be to great, no receiver is ever going to make a probowl as a #3
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I have no problems with Higgins walking.

Hell, I completely understand if anyone other than #6 and #95 is not part of the very-long-term future, up to and including Denzel Ward, if only because of his injury history.
 
MoFlo said:
Yep. Among others, I can easily see a Jarvis restructuring coming next off-season and using some of the saved $ to keep Higgins around.
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I've felt like this for a while & have been even more confident about it since the OBJ recruitment & acquisition. There still may come an impasse, but I think both sides see that the current deal won't work for the team & Jarvis may opt for trying to remain in Cleveland while OBJ is here.
 
I’m certainly in the minority, but from a cost and value perspective, I would give Higgins a substantial bump in salary and dump Landry.

Wouldn’t be shocked at all to see Higgins become the #2 this year, and outperform Landry.

You can see the way Mayfield has faith in Higgins at multiple levels of the field. They have a certain chemistry.
 
AZ_ said:
I’m certainly in the minority, but from a cost and value perspective, I would give Higgins a substantial bump in salary and dump Landry.

Wouldn’t be shocked at all to see Higgins become the #2 this year, and outperform Landry.

You can see the way Mayfield has faith in Higgins at multiple levels of the field. They have a certain chemistry.
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From a financial perspective, that's probably the right move. Just not sure it works from a team-building one. Doubt we dump Landry any time soon because he's basically the reason OBJ is here.
 
How much over the cap can you go? We could probably bite the bullet on some other depth before Myles's class comes up for extensions.
 
AZ_ said:
I’m certainly in the minority, but from a cost and value perspective, I would give Higgins a substantial bump in salary and dump Landry.

Wouldn’t be shocked at all to see Higgins become the #2 this year, and outperform Landry.

You can see the way Mayfield has faith in Higgins at multiple levels of the field. They have a certain chemistry.
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Landry is a top 30 WR in the league, and in his first five years in the league has averaged almost 100 receptions/year.

Landry had the lowest number of receptions of his career last year (81), which means he had 9 more receptions last year, than Higgins has had in his 3 year career.

I got it, there are a lot of fans of Higgins on this board but quite frankly some of the talk about Higgins being the number 2 reciever on this team is a little ridiculous.
 
bob2the2nd said:
Landry is a top 30 WR in the league, and in his first five years in the league has averaged almost 100 receptions/year.

Landry had the lowest number of receptions of his career last year (81), which means he had 9 more receptions last year, than Higgins has had in his 3 year career.

I got it, there are a lot of fans of Higgins on this board but quite frankly some of the talk about Higgins being the number 2 reciever on this team is a little ridiculous.
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On 149 targets. Meager 54% catch rate.

Comparatively to Higgins 74%, Higgins younger and cheaper deal, and potential at multiple levels of the field, I’m inclined to believe the arrow is trending in the right direction.
 
AZ_ said:
On 149 targets. Meager 54% catch rate.

Comparatively to Higgins 74%, Higgins younger and cheaper deal, and potential at multiple levels of the field, I’m inclined to believe the arrow is trending in the right direction.
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landry's career catch rate is 67% on 720 targets

Higgins has a 62% catch rate on 115 targets.

If landry catches at his average rate last year he puts up 100+ receptions, and 1250+ yards and we arent even discussing this, so lets see how he bounces back
 
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