2019 Cleveland Browns Regular Season

Binkster said:

Does this signal a corresponding acquisition?

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We got Seals-Jones off of waivers a couple weeks ago so I'm guessing Rico is a corresponding casualty.

inliner311 said:

Sometimes I feel like Dorsey has too soft a spot for his ex players. I personally think Kindred, BBC, and Devalve were better options than Morgan Burnett, Eric Murray, and Demetrius Harris.

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This was cited as one of the reasons the Chefs moved on from him- a little too devoted to his own guys.

bob2the2nd said:

My sister is an epileptic, and they happen about once a year. I assure you if she knew when they would happen should would change her day. But to change your lifestyle style for an event that happens very infrequently is ridiculous.

This guy already can’t drive, has to rely on others and public transportation to get around and he just got embarrassed for falling off this RV. To criticize him for something you know nothing about and they can’t control is a little out of hand.

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Yep.

Epileptic here. I’ve been on the 3-4 year plan for the last 20+ yrs. Grand mal. But every once in a while I’ll get them spaced a year or so apart. Longest I’ve gone was 6 years.

I certainly don’t blame people for thinking things like “well ____ is epileptic so they shouldnt ____,” because when you have a seizure you literally can kill yourself and everybody around you. But if you’re in our situation you have absolutely no idea when they’re coming and you want more than anything to live as normal a life as possible. That goes doubly for when licenses get pulled. When that shit happens (I could go on about that law), all you want is to get out and live your life and not have to depend on people. Every minute with friends and out in the open is valued.

Living life protecting yourself from the next seizure is no way to live at all. And people around you can become stressors themselves because they tend to be more stressed than the epileptic person themselves.

I will say this. There are ways to protect yourself and nearly every epileptic knows there triggers. Hopefully this guy wasn’t drinking, was limiting stress, avoided alcohol, exercised, drank a ton of water, had taken pills, eating right etc etc.

If you aren’t checking off the whole list, THEN you don’t take risks.

That said...I hate judging other people’s medical issues. I’ve lived with something that killed my dad and many of his relatives and could and may very well kill me and any family members that my genes make their way into. That’s a pretty sobering thought.

It’s put in perspective that there are many, many people that are living with things not just like this but heart diseases, cancer, you name it. And these people are getting bu just fine. You can’t let it stop you from living life to the extent that you can do. Just take care of yourself. If you don’t do THAT then you’re letting yourself and your family down.

Just like I noted in the preseason, the Browns went 11 personnel heavy. Cleveland used 11 personnel on an incredible 94% of snaps. I don’t advise they continue that much longer. All four of Baker Mayfield’s sacks came from 11 personnel and he recorded just 7.4 YPA and a 38% success rate from 11. When Freddie Kitchens took over in 2018, he shifted quickly to a heavier use of 12 and 13 personnel. Under Kitchens in 2018, Baker dominated from 12 personnel (67% success, 9.6 YPA) and 13 personnel (67% success, 13.5 YPA) and was less efficient from 11 (46% success, 8.6 YPA). On Sunday, Mayfield threw just one time from 12 or 13, a successful 8-yard gain.

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NorthCoastBias said:

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Yeah, hopefully Harris performs better as a blocker. That would let us use 12 personnel, which given this team, is perfect.

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Chubb

Overload Baker’s weak side to slow down the pass rush and then give him plenty of options.

The Oi said:

Yep.

Epileptic here. I’ve been on the 3-4 year plan for the last 20+ yrs. Grand mal. But every once in a while I’ll get them spaced a year or so apart. Longest I’ve gone was 6 years.

I certainly don’t blame people for thinking things like “well ____ is epileptic so they shouldnt ____,” because when you have a seizure you literally can kill yourself and everybody around you. But if you’re in our situation you have absolutely no idea when they’re coming and you want more than anything to live as normal a life as possible. That goes doubly for when licenses get pulled. When that shit happens (I could go on about that law), all you want is to get out and live your life and not have to depend on people. Every minute with friends and out in the open is valued.

Living life protecting yourself from the next seizure is no way to live at all. And people around you can become stressors themselves because they tend to be more stressed than the epileptic person themselves.

I will say this. There are ways to protect yourself and nearly every epileptic knows there triggers. Hopefully this guy wasn’t drinking, was limiting stress, avoided alcohol, exercised, drank a ton of water, had taken pills, eating right etc etc.

If you aren’t checking off the whole list, THEN you don’t take risks.

That said...I hate judging other people’s medical issues. I’ve lived with something that killed my dad and many of his relatives and could and may very well kill me and any family members that my genes make their way into. That’s a pretty sobering thought.

It’s put in perspective that there are many, many people that are living with things not just like this but heart diseases, cancer, you name it. And these people are getting bu just fine. You can’t let it stop you from living life to the extent that you can do. Just take care of yourself. If you don’t do THAT then you’re letting yourself and your family down.

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On a lighter note,
I've been fortunate enough to have had less than 10 seizures my whole life and never be seriously injured by one
BUT... I once had one while preparing to spend some 'private' time on the computer... pants down and everything.
Woke up in a completely amnesic and severely confused state and wandered next door to my roommates bedroom, kicked open his door with no pants on and tried to take his backpack. He talked me down and escorted me back to my room where a wonderful girl-on-girl masterpiece continued to play on my laptop

On a side note, your junk is not in good showing after a seizure

jking948 said:

Yeah, hopefully Harris performs better as a blocker. That would let us use 12 personnel, which given this team, is perfect.

OBJ-Landry-Harris Baker Njoku-Higgins
Chubb

Overload Baker’s weak side to slow down the pass rush and then give him plenty of options.

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The key, to me, might be Rickey Seals-Jones.

He's the type of guy that would allow the Browns to thrive from 12 or 13.

Sticker114 said:

On a lighter note,
I've been fortunate enough to have had less than 10 seizures my whole life and never be seriously injured by one
BUT... I once had one while preparing to spend some 'private' time on the computer... pants down and everything.
Woke up in a completely amnesic and severely confused state and wandered next door to my roommates bedroom, kicked open his door with no pants on and tried to take his backpack. He talked me down and escorted me back to my room where a wonderful girl-on-girl masterpiece continued to play on my laptop

On a side note, your junk is not in good showing after a seizure

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This is seriously one of my greatest fears.

The vast majority of my porn is standard stuff but the one time somebody would walk in, I’d have been on a girl on girl and accidentally banged my head on the keyboard and clicked “BBC cucks epileptic Browns fan and gets snowballed. Only watch this if it’s your exact fetish!” and end up with my wife’s family finding me.

Cement said:

It's a cliché but a good offensive line can make any QB or RB look good. Dak Prescott has turned into a serviceable to good QB thanks in large part to the offensive line. Dallas invested heavily in the line in money and high draft picks and it's paying massive dividends.

Too bad Dorsey and Kitchens don't have the same approach. It was the ultimate in arrogance and hubris to think we could roll into the season with Robinson and Hubbard as our OTs (not to mention trading away Zeitler).

It's amazing that year after year, doesn't matter the HC, doesn't matter the GM, the offensive line continues to get ignored.

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This isn't even remotely true. Almost every year of sorry ass teams we've put on the field in Cleveland the line was very good to elite. Never won us shit.

jking948 said:

Yeah, hopefully Harris performs better as a blocker. That would let us use 12 personnel, which given this team, is perfect.

OBJ-Landry-Harris Baker Njoku-Higgins
Chubb

Overload Baker’s weak side to slow down the pass rush and then give him plenty of options.

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A question for people who know a hell of a lot more about football than me:

If (according to that article) the 12 and 13 personnel were working so well last year, why go away from them SO MUCH in Game 1? It seemed like the 11 was the plan from the start. (94% of the time????) For the love of God, why?

OBJ? Overconfident re: OL? Scared about not having a good backup for Chubb? Kitchens v. Monken? Some combination of all of those?

I'm not buying that it's because we were playing from behind. Down 9 at the end of the 3rd, that's it. Unless we're going to panic any time we're down by more than a touchdown (which Kitchens may have done, I guess).

Phil Mixtape said:

Call me crazy, but if i've had a history of epileptic seizures i'm not standing on an rv roof at a goddamn tailgate. Cmon now . . .

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You can both see it as something you wouldn't do, and also agree with the son's assessment that it shouldn't be ridiculed...

On another note:

Coyote said:

A question for people who know a hell of a lot more about football than me:

If (according to that article) the 12 and 13 personnel were working so well last year, why go away from them SO MUCH in Game 1? It seemed like the 11 was the plan from the start. (94% of the time????) For the love of God, why?

OBJ? Overconfident re: OL? Scared about not having a good backup for Chubb? Kitchens v. Monken? Some combination of all of those?

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It would be really interesting for one of our media members to ask Freddie this question...but in reality I’d be shocked if any of those clowns even know what 11vs12 personnel means.

My best guess? I think Freddie lost himself a bit in the ongoing process of trying to meld his system with Todd Monken’s.

One thing that stuck with me from Monken’s introductory press conference was his statement that “we should be looking to score on every play”. Of course the objective of the game is to score as much as possible, but I think some of what we saw on Sunday can be traced back to this mentality of chasing home run hitters instead of playing the rhythmic game that Freddie and Baker executed so well last year.

I have faith that Freddie will watch the tape and restore the balance in his playcalling as soon as this week against the Jets. He was able to do exactly that so incredibly quickly after taking over for Haley last year.

IMO we need to operate more out of 12, 21, and 22 while our offensive line is in its current state and I think Freddie will recognize that quickly. Sprinkle in some of the longer developing stuff from Monken, but 90%+ of plays out of 11 suggests we lost sight of our identity.

chrisrich91 said:

It would be really interesting for one of our media members to ask Freddie this question...but in reality I’d be shocked if any of those clowns even know what 11vs12 personnel means.

My best guess? I think Freddie lost himself a bit in the ongoing process of trying to meld his system with Todd Monken’s.

One thing that stuck with me from Monken’s introductory press conference was his statement that “we should be looking to score on every play”. Of course the objective of the game is to score as much as possible, but I think some of what we saw on Sunday can be traced back to this mentality of chasing home run hitters instead of playing the rhythmic game that Freddie and Baker executed so well last year.

I have faith that Freddie will watch the tape and restore the balance in his playcalling as soon as this week against the Jets. He was able to do exactly that so incredibly quickly after taking over for Haley last year.

IMO we need to operate more out of 12, 21, and 22 while our offensive line is in its current state and I think Freddie will recognize that quickly. Sprinkle in some of the longer developing stuff from Monken, but 90%+ of plays out of 11 suggests we lost sight of our identity.

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Constantly getting behind schedule due to penalties and then playing from behind most of the second half couldn't have helped either.