Oh I know, but it looks like to me, Francona did back off in pitching him in September in some ways to begin with, so my guess in hindsight would have been the Sept 4th outing, but hindsight is always 20/20 and at that time, coming off of 4 successful outings, one bad one isn't a red flag. Going by his outing sheet, the Aug 11th, 12th, 18th and 21st werent good outings, so maybe if we could have, got him extra rest after that in some ways, but he did come back numbers wise good after that, so even by that, there wasn't a time to really say, hey, we are going to put ya on the DL to rest your arm in a sense, which maybe is really what he needed in the end was to get some rest in that arm.