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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 22 13.0%

  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 23 13.6%

  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 18.3%

  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 39 23.1%

  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.0%

  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 11.8%

  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 10 5.9%

  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 5.9%

  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 7.7%
  • Total voters
    169
Ozone said:
At least I am backing up my arguments.
You can't even get your facts straight.
Jrue Holiday was the #1 ranked pg in the country and the #2 overall ranked prospect heading into college for a reason.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2008/jrue-holiday-18159
Garland was the #2 ranked pg behind Jones, and was #17th ranked prospect overall ironically right behind the 16th ranked Kevin Porter Jr. nationally. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/darius-garland-2769

The part that went over your head is Jrue was a better prospect and went 17th in 09 and 9 of the players taken ahead of him are out of the league already proving how bad teams are at drafting.
If he had gotten hurt he could have rode his high school highlight reel right into the top 5 same as Darius.

The bottom line and what it all goes back to is Garland wasn't playing while others like Reddish, Little and Langford underperformed , completely stunk it up or were outshined by teammates and it hurt their stock.
This is a fact and it is no surprise that since Garland wasn't playing he benefitted from as a result not stinking it up himself which definitely could have been the case since all anyone saw him do in college was against 4 nobodies and the last game which would have been telling he played less than 2 minutes.

He has proven nothing other than the one thing that is highly coveted by NBA front offices: he has elite off the dribble shooting ability , which sells a ton of seats even in tank seasons and hey if the kid develops some defensive skillset to go with it he might even become the face of the franchise .

The comp with Jrue & Garland is our boy has a similar court vision and upside and despite severely lagging behind Jrue defensively , is the better o-t-b shooter.

Claiming Garland is a better prospect than Jrue Holiday when clearly he wasn't sounds like you are too young to remember the hype and how he backed it up in the NBA.
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If we went through every game Garland and Jrue played in college, and ranked the top 3 performances....Darius would have them all. And Holiday played 30+ games.
 
Derek said:
tell me more...
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My point give him time...he hasn't played an NBA game yet and already complaining about defense? I bet none of the youngs guys defense will be that great in the beginning of the year but I also bet it will improve quite a bit by the end of the year...
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
If we went through every game Garland and Jrue played in college, and ranked the top 3 performances....Darius would have them all. And Holiday played 30+ games.
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yep Jrue played out of position in college because his coach was more confident in using the veteran Collison ummm shocker there. Jrue was even more versatile as a defender than the lock down speed demon defender in Collison, but I guess that doesn't matter, and Garland playing against poor defenders helped his cause significantly in all 4 games to make him look like the better prospect to offensive drunks.
This back and forth bs regarding Garland getting old.
He was overpicked imo and he is nothing more than a 6th man bench scorer on a contender at this point,
what he turns into is another story but some people on here think he is more than he ever showed to be.

Jrue was a better HS player and that was the entire point since that is all anyone had to go on with Garland.

He is an elite off the dribble shooter and has shown zero reliable skill beyond that other than taking and making some tough passes but mostly better at turning the ball over.
What kills me is he does not show the effort to dive for 5050 balls or show any gamer mentality on that side of the ball having zero interest in having any responsibility playing the passing lanes. There is zero reason to believe he is any different than the Stephs and Kyrie types who want to be treated like QB's who slide instead of hurdle.
hes a pussy
 
Ozone said:
yep Jrue played out of position in college because his coach was more confident in using the veteran Collison ummm shocker there. Jrue was even more versatile as a defender than the lock down speed demon defender in Collison, but I guess that doesn't matter, and Garland playing against poor defenders helped his cause significantly in all 4 games to make him look like the better prospect to offensive drunks.
This back and forth bs regarding Garland getting old.
He was overpicked imo and he is nothing more than a 6th man bench scorer on a contender at this point,
what he turns into is another story but some people on here think he is more than he ever showed to be.

Jrue was a better HS player and that was the entire point since that is all anyone had to go on with Garland.

He is an elite off the dribble shooter and has shown zero reliable skill beyond that other than taking and making some tough passes but mostly better at turning the ball over.
What kills me is he does not show the effort to dive for 5050 balls or show any gamer mentality on that side of the ball having zero interest in having any responsibility playing the passing lanes. There is zero reason to believe he is any different than the Stephs and Kyrie types who want to be treated like QB's who slide instead of hurdle.
hes a pussy
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The Fuck
 
Ozone said:
yep Jrue played out of position in college because his coach was more confident in using the veteran Collison ummm shocker there. Jrue was even more versatile as a defender than the lock down speed demon defender in Collison, but I guess that doesn't matter, and Garland playing against poor defenders helped his cause significantly in all 4 games to make him look like the better prospect to offensive drunks.
This back and forth bs regarding Garland getting old.
He was overpicked imo and he is nothing more than a 6th man bench scorer on a contender at this point,
what he turns into is another story but some people on here think he is more than he ever showed to be.

Jrue was a better HS player and that was the entire point since that is all anyone had to go on with Garland.

He is an elite off the dribble shooter and has shown zero reliable skill beyond that other than taking and making some tough passes but mostly better at turning the ball over.
What kills me is he does not show the effort to dive for 5050 balls or show any gamer mentality on that side of the ball having zero interest in having any responsibility playing the passing lanes. There is zero reason to believe he is any different than the Stephs and Kyrie types who want to be treated like QB's who slide instead of hurdle.
hes a pussy
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Not sure what you are talking about. I will take a player who does not miss off the dribble 3 point shots and is a great passer and has a great feel for the game even in his first training camp after basically missing a whole year every year in the top 5. If he had a navicular fracture, a Jones fracture or history of torn achilles then I would reconsider. Otherwise the only player you absolutely take over him is a possible generational talent like Zion.
 
Ozone said:
yep Jrue played out of position in college because his coach was more confident in using the veteran Collison ummm shocker there. Jrue was even more versatile as a defender than the lock down speed demon defender in Collison, but I guess that doesn't matter, and Garland playing against poor defenders helped his cause significantly in all 4 games to make him look like the better prospect to offensive drunks.
This back and forth bs regarding Garland getting old.
He was overpicked imo and he is nothing more than a 6th man bench scorer on a contender at this point,
what he turns into is another story but some people on here think he is more than he ever showed to be.

Jrue was a better HS player and that was the entire point since that is all anyone had to go on with Garland.

He is an elite off the dribble shooter and has shown zero reliable skill beyond that other than taking and making some tough passes but mostly better at turning the ball over.
What kills me is he does not show the effort to dive for 5050 balls or show any gamer mentality on that side of the ball having zero interest in having any responsibility playing the passing lanes. There is zero reason to believe he is any different than the Stephs and Kyrie types who want to be treated like QB's who slide instead of hurdle.
hes a pussy
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I’m convinced this is performance art
 
Ozone said:
yep Jrue played out of position in college because his coach was more confident in using the veteran Collison ummm shocker there. Jrue was even more versatile as a defender than the lock down speed demon defender in Collison, but I guess that doesn't matter, and Garland playing against poor defenders helped his cause significantly in all 4 games to make him look like the better prospect to offensive drunks.
This back and forth bs regarding Garland getting old.
He was overpicked imo and he is nothing more than a 6th man bench scorer on a contender at this point,
what he turns into is another story but some people on here think he is more than he ever showed to be.

Jrue was a better HS player and that was the entire point since that is all anyone had to go on with Garland.

He is an elite off the dribble shooter and has shown zero reliable skill beyond that other than taking and making some tough passes but mostly better at turning the ball over.
What kills me is he does not show the effort to dive for 5050 balls or show any gamer mentality on that side of the ball having zero interest in having any responsibility playing the passing lanes. There is zero reason to believe he is any different than the Stephs and Kyrie types who want to be treated like QB's who slide instead of hurdle.
hes a pussy
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You learned all of this from our scrimmaged against a team from a country I didn't know had Pro Basketball and the WIne and Gold scrimmage?

And you want a guy coming off injury diving for 50/50 balls in the wine and gold scrimmage? Seriously?
 
bboy said:
My point give him time...he hasn't played an NBA game yet and already complaining about defense? I bet none of the youngs guys defense will be that great in the beginning of the year but I also bet it will improve quite a bit by the end of the year...
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I was being immature and making a sexual reference
 
Sir'Dom Pointer said:
How are sex references being immature? do babies have sex outside of birth? to my knowledge only mature people have sex. In Russia they start super early though to maintain adequate body temperature.
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In Russia they call it “relaxing.”

I learned that from a podcast I just made up.
 
Can a moderator free the ghost of @Jon ? It creeps me out to see his likes once in a blue moon just to see him disappear again. Weird stuff.
 
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The Oi said:
In Russia they call it “relaxing.”

I learned that from a podcast I just made up.
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No, they don't.

I knew a bunch of russian dudes. They call it Crack and chill...usually by a dumpster fire.
 
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