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Cavatt said:
Zubac had been in the league a year longer and has gotten a lot more playing time.
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Because Zubac is more athetlic. Idk why you are so hung up on a plodding center in 2019 man. Let it go.
 
Cavatt said:
I think we need a backup center. That's all
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That's fine. But clearly Zizic wasn't the answer. He flashed at times but isn't athetlic enough for today's game and is always hurt. Cavaliers declining his option isn't a big deal at all. I would have been more shocked if they committed to paying a garbage time player almost 4 Million next season.
 
NMCav said:
That's fine. But clearly Zizic wasn't the answer. He flashed at times but isn't athetlic enough for today's game and is always hurt. Cavaliers declining his option isn't a big deal at all. I would have been more shocked if they committed to paying a garbage time player almost 4 Million next season.
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I dont agree that he clearly was not the answer. I think he is not clearly the answer and thats the problem. He has good scoring skills and excellent size, but he does not appear to have the commitment to get better. He is very young though, and that should be a vector in how we deal with him.
 
The problem is that hes been injured so much, coupled with regime changes. Not a lick of consistency.

The layup line we have on D needs addressed. TT is the only guy with an ounce of defensive verticality.
 
Cavatt said:
Cavs are declining his option. Seems weird when you need a backup center.

I still.like him. Defensive potential, sets screens and Scores easily
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I gotta wonder if he did something in camp to make Beilein unhappy.

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Zizic is sidelined with plantar fasciitis in his left foot and has been out for almost two weeks. He is expected to be out for up to another two weeks. ​
 
Douglar said:
I gotta wonder if he did something in camp to make Beilein unhappy.

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On the defensive end, Beilein wants Thompson to be the last line of defense and protect the rim. Thompson delivered.
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Zizic is sidelined with plantar fasciitis in his left foot and has been out for almost two weeks. He is expected to be out for up to another two weeks. ​
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I highly doubt Beilein is making decisions on option pickups at this stage in his coaching tenure
 
Derek said:
I highly doubt Beilein is making decisions on option pickups at this stage in his coaching tenure
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I find it hard to believe that the front office would decline the team option on an inexpensive young player without at least asking the coaching staff if they thought he could be salvaged.

I sort of remember that declining a team option on a rookie scale contract does weird stuff with his bird rights. Anyone recall anything about that?
 
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Douglar said:
I find it hard to believe that the front office would decline the team option on an inexpensive young player without at least asking the coaching staff if they thought he could be salvaged.
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I would agree that they asked his opinion, but I would assume that this was mainly a front office decision.
 
If they can still sign him in the offseason again I won't be mad but it is a weird move to me. It's only $4 million, Why take a chance on losing what little to nonexistant center depth they have with a very young player to boot.
 
Douglar said:
I find it hard to believe that the front office would decline the team option on an inexpensive young player without at least asking the coaching staff if they thought he could be salvaged.

I sort of remember that declining a team option on a rookie scale contract does weird stuff with his bird rights. Anyone recall anything about that?
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Next year we can only offer him as much as the decline option amount. I think other teams can only offer him that much too but he is unrestricted so bird rights are useless.

My guess is they declined Zizic option so they have the flexibility to go after free agents in the summer. Koby must have some potential targets. If there is little or no market for all the expiring contracts then there might be a smaller pool of teams as buyers so Koby might be able to get a free agent easier.
 
rcj47 said:
If they can still sign him in the offseason again I won't be mad but it is a weird move to me. It's only $4 million, Why take a chance on losing what little to nonexistant center depth they have with a very young player to boot.
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This is exactly how I feel. If they like him which they says they do in Chris Fedor's article why risk it. It only build bad blood when a team declines a option like this.

If they have to go out and find a replacement, it will cost them in using a draft pick and/or money. Even if Zizic is a throw back big man, he can score and play 20-25 minutes off the bench. He has more talent than someone like Bolden and will help the young guys develop easier than someone like Bolden.
 
Declining his options means they see him as trade sweetener. He can score and set screens while rebounding well enough.

Nance can't deter anyone in the paint. Unless they think they have the backup spot sewn up with Henson I just don't get it.

TT and Henson are both expiring and it had become obvious Nance isn't a center.

I just wanted to see him play.
 
Sometimes I think we over-value the angle our front-office takes regarding this. It could be as simple as, they don't trust his health moving forward and they wanted to leave an element of flexibility. (for trades or pick ups)

It's a long long long season. Hopefully the kid can get healthy and show off some of the talent he possesses. Beilin was raving about his work ethic this summer, I believe? I am a fan of his game but like many young big guys, it is taking him some time to develop.

But...his value matters less to them if they truly believe in this new version of Double T.
 
Rumor is off the court stuff. If they like KPJ but not Zizic, my guess is prostitution, gambling and or alcoholism.

I knew it didn't fit with his on court performance or team need with 3 centers expiring this year, him being the cheapest.
 
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