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If you're going to be isolating yourself in your house anyway, is it worth the additional risk inherent in travelling, especially overnight?

I guess it depends upon your situation in Florida. If you can stay there without incurring extra costs because you own a condo, sure go ahead and stay. My aunt and uncle were in a temporary rental with their home in Bryan, Ohio. It makes sense for them to get back to Ohio if there are state travel bans.

I know one family who decided last Friday to take a ski trip to Tahoe when the Bay Area was given a "shelter in place". Then everything closed, skiing was shut down, and they were stuck in a cabin they rented playing Clue. Karma laughed in the face of their vacation. They are back now.
 
Ok.


My gut tells me that I’m going to lose a lot of money. I don’t want to do that and could use cash immediately and thus would prefer to sell now rather than wait a few months. Curious what others think.





Not so much this as the above.

IMO this isn't the bottom. People are really going to start dying in a week or 2 and hospitals will get more crowded. Is it going to be good for the market at the beginning of April when a bunch of tipped and hourly workers can't pay their rent? I don't think so. We saw what a 1.5 T dollars of interested free loans did to the market, barely and no lasting effects.
 
My gut tells me that I’m going to lose a lot of money. I don’t want to do that and could use cash immediately and thus would prefer to sell now rather than wait a few months. Curious what others think.

Don't be a pussy :chuckle:

Seriously, if you need cash for liquidity, get some. Fact is that anyone in investments -- especially equities -- has taken a hell of a beating. It happens (2008 was no fun; I remember "Black Monday in 1987). Nobody knows WHEN it will come back --- but it will. Investing, though, is a personal decision. Not everyone is cut out to see a 30% drop in value in ten days.
 
The GF and I were at the Cavs game on March 7th (the last one before the shut down). One lady from Hudson tested positive and was at that game, along with the other things like the Jazz being there 4 days prior.

We both got sick middle of last week and haven't really gotten better. My stuff is more allergy/sinus type with shortness of breath but the GF has a burning chest, had a low grade fever, etc.

Her doctor just said to stay home (as she tested negative for flu and strep) and to essentially quarantine but no COVID-19 test was happening.

I think we both have it to be honest. We didn't go out that week/weekend except the game.
 
The GF and I were at the Cavs game on March 7th (the last one before the shut down). One lady from Hudson tested positive and was at that game, along with the other things like the Jazz being there 4 days prior.

We both got sick middle of last week and haven't really gotten better. My stuff is more allergy/sinus type with shortness of breath but the GF has a burning chest, had a low grade fever, etc.

Her doctor just said to stay home (as she tested negative for flu and strep) and to essentially quarantine but no COVID-19 test was happening.

I think we both have it to be honest. We didn't go out that week/weekend except the game.
Just follow the governor's advice. Quarantine. If you struggle breathing call the ER. If not. Stay inside to prevent further exposure.

Praying for your health.
 
I hate to be "the sky is not falling" guy, because it kind of is, but this is good news.


The coronavirus epidemic is slowing down in China, and will not pose a risk to the majority of people, an Israeli Nobel Prize laureate has said.

Michael Levitt, an American-British-Israeli biophysicist who won the 2013 Nobel prize for chemistry for "the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems," has become something of a household name in China over the last few months. Although his specialty is not in epidemiology, he accurately forecast the slowing down of the spread of the virus in February, giving hope to those affected by the lockdown.

But far from being a modern-day prophet, he explained in an interview with Calcalist that he simply crunched the numbers.

Levitt's wife, Shoshan Brosh, is a researcher of Chinese art, meaning that the couple regularly travels between America, Israel and China. Consequently, when the virus broke out in Hubei province, Levitt wrote to his Chinese friends in support.

“When they answered us, describing how complicated their situation was, I decided to take a deeper look at the numbers in the hope of reaching some conclusion,” Levitt explained. “The rate of infection of the virus in the Hubei province increased by 30% each day — that is a scary statistic. I am not an influenza expert but I can analyze numbers and that is exponential growth.”

Had the growth continued at that rate, the whole world would have become infected within 90 days. But as Levitt continued to process the numbers, the pattern changed. On February 1, when he first looked at the statistics, Hubei Province had 1,800 new cases a day. By February 6, that number had reached 4,700 new cases a day.

But on February 7, something changed. “The number of new infections started to drop linearly and did not stop," Levitt said. "A week later, the same happened with the number of the deaths. This dramatic change in the curve marked the median point and enabled better prediction of when the pandemic will end. Based on that, I concluded that the situation in all of China will improve within two weeks. And, indeed, now there are very few new infection cases.”


Levitt likened the trend to diminishing interest rates: if a person receives a 30% interest rate on their savings on Day 1, a 29% rate on Day 2, and so on, “you understand that eventually, you will not earn very much.”


Similarly, although new cases are being reported in China, they represent a fraction of those reported in the early stages. “Even if the interest rate keeps dropping, you still make money," he said. "The sum you invested does not lessen, it just grows more slowly. When discussing diseases, it frightens people a lot because they keep hearing about new cases every day. But the fact that the infection rate is slowing down means the end of the pandemic is near.”

By plotting the data forward, Levitt has predicted that the virus will likely disappear from China by the end of March.

THE REASON for the slowdown is due to the fact that exponential models assume that people with the virus will continue to infect others at a steady rate. In the early phase of COVID-19, that rate was 2.2 people a day on average.

“In exponential growth models, you assume that new people can be infected every day, because you keep meeting new people," Levitt said. "But, if you consider your own social circle, you basically meet the same people every day. You can meet new people on public transportation, for example; but even on the bus, after some time most passengers will either be infected or immune.”


However, that doesn't mean Levitt is dismissive of the precautions being put in place by governments around the world.

“You don’t hug every person you meet on the street now, and you’ll avoid meeting face to face with someone that has a cold, like we did,” Levitt said. “The more you adhere, the more you can keep infection in check. So, under these circumstances, a carrier will only infect 1.5 people every three days and the rate will keep going down.”

Isolation and limiting social contact is not the only factor at play, however. In Wuhan, where the virus first emerged, the whole population theoretically was at risk of becoming infected, but only 3% were.

The Diamond Princess cruise ship represented the worst-case scenario in terms of disease spread, as the close confines of the ship offered optimal conditions for the virus to be passed among those aboard. The population density aboard the ship was the equivalent of trying to cram the whole Israeli population into an area 30 kilometers square. In addition, the ship had a central air conditioning and heating system, and communal dining rooms.

“Those are extremely comfortable conditions for the virus and still, only 20% were infected. It is a lot, but pretty similar to the infection rate of the common flu,” Levitt said. Based on those figures, his conclusion was that most people are simply naturally immune.

Looking at the picture globally, Levitt was reticent to make predictions country-by-country as to when the spread of the virus will slow. China is nearing the point at which the number of new infections will be zero, while South Korea had already moved past the median point, and was starting to see a slow down in new infection rates.

Italy's higher death rate, he said, was likely due to the fact that elderly people make up a greater percentage of the population than they do in other countries such as China or France. “Furthermore, Italian culture is very warm, and Italians have a very rich social life. For these reasons, it is important to keep people apart and prevent sick people from coming into contact with healthy people.”


Israel doesn't have enough cases to provide useful data from which to make predictions, Levitt said, although he praised the government for its preventative measures. "The more severe the defensive measures taken, the more they will buy tim
 

I continue to be impressed with DeWine's handling of it.

Right now AZ has zero deaths and less than 30 known cases. Obviously this number is much higher like all states, but I feel lucky to be here,

Ohio should feel lucky they have a leader for Governor, I know i gave 2 separate thoughts, just didn't need 2 separate posts imo.
 
I continue to be impressed with DeWine's handling of it.

Right now AZ has zero deaths and less than 30 known cases. Obviously this number is much higher like all states, but I feel lucky to be here,

Ohio should feel lucky they have a leader for Governor, I know i gave 2 separate thoughts, just didn't need 2 separate posts imo.
That's been my main takeaway from this. Ohio is lucky to have Dewine in charge of this we are also lucky to have amazing hospitals like CC and University
 
That's been my main takeaway from this. Ohio is lucky to have Dewine in charge of this we are also lucky to have amazing hospitals like CC and University

University of Cincinnati also has a world class medical center as well.

Ohio is really blessed to be a hub of bright medical thinkers.
 
I keep seeing stories of people with plenty of symptoms struggling to get tests but all these basketball players don't seem to have a problem getting tested. Not sure how that makes much sense.
This is exactly why even though I know I could have got tested this morning but didn't push and said I trust your judgement doc. 38 and a smoker (my BP was horrible at intake but I was definitely on edge), fact is I don't think I have it and am in a lower risk pool. Told I'd prefer to save the test for someone that needed it.
 
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