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Once I went glock I never looked back. I have a glock 23 for concealed carry, and for home defense, I have a Glock 22. Why are you looking away from the G23?
 
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Once I went glock I never looked back. I have a glock 23 for concealed carry, and for home defense, I have a Glock 22. Why are you looking away from the G23?

Yep, Glock for me too. Had my Glock 17 for over 30 years, shot thousands of rounds thru it, never any issue. Have had the compact 26 for over 20 years.... same... not one issue using all sorts of cheap ammo.

Then again, as has been said, each to their own. What is it meant for? Is it comfortable and controllable in your hand when firing? Is it reliable?
 
There are some core qualities such as reliability, size, safety features, accuracy, magazine size, price, etc., that may make one gun objectively better than -- or at least as good as --another for a specific purpose. Once you get passed that, there are a lot of more subjective criteria that can lead someone to prefer one over another. Glocks are functionally efficient and reliable, so they're always going to be in the conversation.

But some of those other qualities may really matter in terms of personal preference when deciding among the contenders. Hammer or striker fired? How is the trigger pull SA/DA in terms of poundage, steadiness, and reset distance? Does it have a grip safety, manual safety, trigger safety, or what? How about controls like the slide and magazine release? Are they easy to locate and depress? Do the mags fall out on their own when released, or do you have to remove them manually? And there's obviously ergonomics -- how it feels in your hands, whether your fingers fall in the right places, etc.. And for lefties, there's always the question of ambidextrous controls.

And there's also just looks. I was cleaning my PPK and my wife walked by and said "that's a nice-looking one". I actually prefer the Bersa Thunder in terms of usage, but the PPK is just sexy.

ETA: Forgot some shit. I have a Kimber Micro 9, which is a really nice pistol except the damn thing requires a tool to break down, and I hate that. So ease of disassembly may matter. There's also how easy it is to rack. I had a Beretta 85 Cheetah that was direct blowback and an absolute bitch to rack. The PPK isn't easy either. On the flip side, I got Mrs. Tip a S&W Shield EZ that can be racked with a pinkie. That can be huge for some folks who don't have a lot of grip strength. Some guns are really snappy as well, due to weight/caliber issues as well as how high the bore axis is. Those guns may just be not much fun to shoot because of that.
 
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For home defense i think it's good to go .40 and above just for sheer stopping power. Get some hollow points or personal protection rounds, i have some good ones from Gold Dot and you're good to go . . .
 
Yep, Glock for me too. Had my Glock 17 for over 30 years, shot thousands of rounds thru it, never any issue. Have had the compact 26 for over 20 years.... same... not one issue using all sorts of cheap ammo.

Then again, as has been said, each to their own. What is it meant for? Is it comfortable and controllable in your hand when firing? Is it reliable?

I want a more ergonomic grip. So I am really looking at the P30.

But, as I said, I am bored of the Glock.

It is true this is more of a choice of luxury since I am already well protected.
 
There are some core qualities such as reliability, size, safety features, accuracy, magazine size, price, etc., that may make one gun objectively better than -- or at least as good as --another for a specific purpose. Once you get passed that, there are a lot of more subjective criteria that can lead someone to prefer one over another. Glocks are functionally efficient and reliable, so they're always going to be in the conversation.

But some of those other qualities may really matter in terms of personal preference when deciding among the contenders. Hammer or striker fired? How is the trigger pull SA/DA in terms of poundage, steadiness, and reset distance? Does it have a grip safety, manual safety, trigger safety, or what? How about controls like the slide and magazine release? Are they easy to locate and depress? Do the mags fall out on their own when released, or do you have to remove them manually? And there's obviously ergonomics -- how it feels in your hands, whether your fingers fall in the right places, etc.. And for lefties, there's always the question of ambidextrous controls.

And there's also just looks. I was cleaning my PPK and my wife walked by and said "that's a nice-looking one". I actually prefer the Bersa Thunder in terms of usage, but the PPK is just sexy.

ETA: Forgot some shit. I have a Kimber Micro 9, which is a really nice pistol except the damn thing requires a tool to break down, and I hate that. So ease of disassembly may matter. There's also how easy it is to rack. I had a Beretta 85 Cheetah that was direct blowback and an absolute bitch to rack. The PPK isn't easy either. On the flip side, I got Mrs. Tip a S&W Shield EZ that can be racked with a pinkie. That can be huge for some folks who don't have a lot of grip strength. Some guns are really snappy as well, due to weight/caliber issues as well as how high the bore axis is. Those guns may just be not much fun to shoot because of that.

I have a Bersa Thunder as well!

I also had a nice WWII period Walther PP. I liked it. I sold it when I was a poor student. I may get another one along with a P-38.

I also had a Luger. But, to be honest, I did not like firing it. Heavy as shit.
 
I also had a Luger. But, to be honest, I did not like firing it. Heavy as shit.

Mentioning Luger reminds me of a Mauser I fired as a kid (k98 maybe). My uncle was a collector and we went out shooting. He put a match book on a tree and shot at the matchbook 3 times with this rifle. After the 3rd shot, the freaking tree broke at the matchbook and fell over. As like a 10 year old kid... yeah, that made an impression on me!
 
Mentioning Luger reminds me of a Mauser I fired as a kid (k98 maybe). My uncle was a collector and we went out shooting. He put a match book on a tree and shot at the matchbook 3 times with this rifle. After the 3rd shot, the freaking tree broke at the matchbook and fell over. As like a 10 year old kid... yeah, that made an impression on me!

The K98k is a fine weapon. I had one.

I prefer the Swedish variant though, it is chambered in 6.5mm which is reputed as one of the most accurate rounds invented.

One just has to assemble it one's self with a small allen wrench....
 
Don't remember specifically if it was a k98k or k98 or other variant...l was 10...but he did say it was German, so yeah, might've been k98k. Did l mention the tree fell over? Lol...

R.I.P. Uncle Bill!
 
Don't remember specifically if it was a k98k or k98 or other variant...l was 10...but he did say it was German, so yeah, might've been k98k. Did l mention the tree fell over? Lol...

R.I.P. Uncle Bill!

I assume, the K98k was the WWII variant, the shorter version. The WWI vintage K98 is as long as a musket!

Fine rifles. The K98 is the template for all the bolt-action battle rifles, including the 1903.
 
Mentioning Luger reminds me of a Mauser I fired as a kid (k98 maybe). My uncle was a collector and we went out shooting. He put a match book on a tree and shot at the matchbook 3 times with this rifle. After the 3rd shot, the freaking tree broke at the matchbook and fell over. As like a 10 year old kid... yeah, that made an impression on me!

My nephew has Czech Mauser. Nice historical gun.
 
I want a more ergonomic grip. So I am really looking at the P30.

But, as I said, I am bored of the Glock.

It is true this is more of a choice of luxury since I am already well protected.
Have you shot with a Canik before? I've shot a few different models recently and was impressed with the accuracy.
 
Have you shot with a Canik before? I've shot a few different models recently and was impressed with the accuracy.

No I have not.

I'll look into it.
 

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