CDAV45
Small ball is for pussies!
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They said retool and not rebuild and trading JRam sends a rebuild not a retool scenario in my mind. Their offense was atrocious in 20, and they are parting with Hernandez, Lindor etc who actually produced. Moving JRam would put the offense in an even worse spot overall and makes it hard to believe we are retooling if we have no proven hitters at all on the roster (outside of maybe Reyes?). I just dont see us going anywhere offensively if we get rid of JRam too.
If we didn't have a starting rotation like we did, I would 100% say JRam would be gone, but with the fact we have a top 5 potential rotation, we need bats to compete especially since the central will not be weak whatsoever.
Trading Ramirez for a bunch of low level prospects would constitute a rebuild. The same goes for the Lindor trade and the possible Carrasco trade. I don't believe that to be the direction they choose for the exact reason you stated.........the starting rotation.
Reread my post you quoted again if you need to. I'm all for keeping Ramirez until he retires or is unproductive, but it would be counterproductive to trade him in a year or 2 considering the current state of affairs instead of now. You need no better example than Lindor or Kluber. I've repeatedly hashed out the haul of talent that I think could be brought in so I'm not going to go through that again. Imagine how different things my look had they traded Kluber and Lindor a year sooner when many of us thought they should. What would we have lost? We haven't won the division in 3yrs. We haven't won a WS in 72 yrs. Instead of trading a healthy, top 5 SP in all of baseball we traded one who missed significant time with injury and underperformance. Instead of trading the best SS in all of baseball with 2 yrs of control remaining, we're trading the best SS in baseball after a shortened season that didn't see him perform at his normal standards and now he's a 1 yr rental unless you can afford to extend him. Those decisions hurt the overall health of this organization IMO. Conversely, trading Clevinger has likely helped this team. Not because he ended up injured, but because he brought in a basket full of talent. We now have Quantrill, Naylor, Arias, Cantillo, and Hedges. The only thing "proven" is that this team isn't going to win jackshit if it continues holding onto good players too long that they know they cannot keep.