Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

This thread has worst takes per capita in history of site.

surreal.

Lee said:

Namath doesn't even belong in the HOF, most overrated of all time

Graham is a debatable top 10, Unitas is not, he should be top 5. His numbers were insane when looking at the competition.

Brees is top10.

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You're not biased at all.

I kid, I kid. Brees holds a metric fuck ton's worth of passing records and keeps swapping the top spot for career TD passes with the GOAT. Of course he's top ten, even if he only has one title. Why are we having this discussion, again?

The Oi said:

This thread has worst takes per capita in history of site.

surreal.

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Apparently someone hasn't been to infowars.com

Sharpner said:

Apparently someone hasn't been to infowars.com

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THIS site. Not the entire internet.

Relevant tho:

The Oi said:

THIS site. Not the entire internet.

Relevant tho:

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Whoops, that's my bad. In that case I agree with you, just really polarizing takes for a polarizing player

Odds this is one of Jigo's alts?

The Oi said:

This thread has worst takes per capita in history of site.

surreal.

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I dip my toe in once a week. Look up who started the whole "Browns draft a QB in the first round in 2021" vibe and gift him a lump of coal this Hanukkah.

Randolphkeys said:

I dip my toe in once a week. Look up who started the whole "Browns draft a QB in the first round in 2021" vibe and gift him a lump of coal this Hanukkah.

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FYI, lumps of coal are a Christian thing, us Jews prefer the end result, diamonds. I mean ever been to Manhattan?

Lee said:

FYI, lumps of coal are a Christian thing, us Jews prefer the end result, diamonds. I mean ever been to Manhattan?

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I thought Jigo and his brother are some of those Appalachian Methodist Jews.

Randolphkeys said:

I thought Jigo and his brother are some of those Appalachian Methodist Jews.

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Oh the Appalachian Jews are the ones that havent showered since 1938 Germany.

Lee said:

Oh the Appalachian Jews are the ones that havent showered since 1938 Germany.

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I didn't know you were into skiing with your cousins.

Anywho, Baker Mayfield...

Bob_The_Cat said:

Don't get it twisted here. All-Time great and Greatest of All-Time are two vastly different things. For example, Joe Thomas is an All-Time great, but is he the GOAT LT? I'm sure some could make the argument to a certain extent, but I don't think so. Really, I think it's pretty safe to say that, at minimum, if you're top 30 All-Time at your position in the history of the sport, you're an All-Time great.

At this point I'd have to say Rodgers, Wilson, and Brees will all be first-ballot HOFers. Does that not make you an All-Time Great at your position? If not, I'm not really sure what does.

Wilson will have 7 Pro Bowls through 10 years and a Super Bowl ring. He had a stretch in November that might've taken him out of MVP discussion, but he's still currently on pace to put up arguably his best season to date. He's probably a terrible play call away from having two rings. There's plenty of guys in the HOF that don't have the stats or accolades Wilson currently has, and (barring good health) he still has a lot of years to build an already impressive resume. Not to mention, he seems to still be getting better as a QB.

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To clarify. Of course Brees is All Time Top 30 in his position. To me a true All Time Great is Top 10 only. My point about Wilson, Brees and Rodgers is that I don't think any of them has consistently played at a level which will cement a place in that Top 10 thirty, forty, fifty years from now. In 1970 it would have been unthinkable that people would not consider Johnny Unitas as a top 10 all time talent but we sit here in 2020 and wish to put a bunch of guys who are still playing above him or, just for example, Otto Graham.

It's like the Rolling Stone Top 100 Albums compiled every ten years. You know there'll be bodies of work which will endure forever but you can look back on the listing from the year 2000 and laugh that they included marginal, flavor of the month type selections which will inevitably look as hideously dated as a Crockett & Tubbs suit.

I'm not knocking Brees, Wilson or Rodgers. They're all fantastic players but my original statement was "I think people are too quick to anoint Russell Wilson as an All Time Great." and they are. The benchmark should be Joe Montana. Do Brees or Wilson constantly hover around Joe Montana levels of greatness? The answer is No.

Anyhow. I apologise unreservedly for derailing the thread. Point is that currently the Browns don't need elite QB play. They need functional, competent play at the position and that's the way it should be going forward if Chubb is going to be asked to stick around.

Randolphkeys said:

I thought Jigo and his brother are some of those Appalachian Methodist Jews.

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BOMBSHELL!!!

The following is an EXCELLENT breakdown of some of Baker's throws during the Jags game, as well as that huge miss to Higgins in the endzone. QC does a tremendous job here. I do think Baker is still a helluva accurate QB who gets almost no credit for his good plays, both within our fanbase and outside of it.