We did wait too long. But there would have been more of a outrage imo if we traded him before 2020First off, I'm not disappointed that Lindor was traded. I don't want my favorite team to agree to any 10yr/$300M deal. Those deals are ridiculously ignorant to give any player. How many times do we need to see teams hamstrung by them? There's not a player alive worth $30M/yr IMO.
Lindor's or any other player's RBI totals are largely influenced by the rest of the lineup. Like or dislike this trade, I can't comprehend the angles used in an attempt to diminish his performances. He is the best SS in the game and his offensive output is a large portion of that.
I'll counter your assumption with I don't think we seen the best years of Lindor. He's just now entering his prime and now he is in a talented lineup from top to bottom.
Hell no CA and MC didn't walk away from "more". They did their job quite well for having no f'n leverage whatsoever. The only thing that I'll be critical of is that they waited too long to trade Lindor and Kluber before him. Had we not waited then the return for Carrasco may have been a lot better as he would not have been tied to Lindor's short term, expensive control.
Is his singing that good? ...awesome opera scene in NYC.Biggest problem with Carrasco is that he’s a prima donna.
So we agree on the idea that they waited too long, but I don't know about the level of outrage. That depends on what the return would have been so we'll never know. I only know that the general public thinks this deal sucks ass.We did wait too long. But there would have been more of a outrage imo if we traded him before 2020
we will disagree on his prime. He is older. Older people are more injury prone. But whatever. We were not going to give him the deal he wants(which I do not blame him at all for)
But I pity the team that tied up 30 million a year for anyone that is one play away from a serious injury
Hard to argue with your latter point regarding injury.So we agree on the idea that they waited too long, but I don't know about the level of outrage. That depends on what the return would have been so we'll never know. I only know that the general public thinks this deal sucks ass.
He's older? He just turned 27 in November. How is that not coming into his prime? Every player, regardless of age, is one play away from serious injury.
Is his singing that good? ...awesome opera scene in NYC.
... so.. who else are the Indians going to "...wait too long..." on?.. hmm?..We did wait too long. But there would have been more of a outrage imo if we traded him before 2020
we will disagree on his prime. He is older. Older people are more injury prone. But whatever. We were not going to give him the deal he wants(which I do not blame him at all for)
But I pity the team that tied up 30 million a year for anyone that is one play away from a serious injury
Excellent range but considering all the chemical castratos in professional sports it isn't as rare as you might believe..One of the best.
His Soprano B is as good as it gets.
He is also rumored to have hit an A above high C in practice which is unheard of.
Bizarre thing IMO to say, I was under the impression he was a vocal and obvious leader here. Just not sure why he would shy away from taking the title? Or the small piece comment? Oh well, best of luck to him just glad he's in the NL.Interesting comments from Lindor at his introductory press conference with the Mets, per NY Post. He wants to be a little piece of the puzzle yet command a $300M contract.
For a long time I thought the Indians could hold on to me, so it was just they didn’t come up with the number,” Lindor said. “They didn’t have the resources maybe. I am excited I am in a good place that is ready to go win and I am looking forward to it.”
Lindor, who has won two Gold Gloves and helped Cleveland reach the World Series in 2016, said he would prefer to be viewed as somebody who can help the Mets win rather than a player who will carry the team.
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“I have never been the type of player like, ‘Follow me, I will lead you to success,’ ” Lindor said. “I have always been a person that together we all can achieve what we want. That is what I am bringing.
“I am, ‘Let’s find a way to do this together. I know you guys have a great thing going on, I just want to be a little piece of that puzzle. I am not trying to get a rope and hold the rope, and I’ll pull you guys. We are all grabbing the rope right next to each other and we are looking forward.’ That is the best way of doing things and we all are going to lead by example, not just for us, but for everybody in the stands and everybody that is counting on us.”
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Interesting comments from Lindor at his introductory press conference with the Mets, per NY Post. He wants to be a little piece of the puzzle yet command a $300M contract.
For a long time I thought the Indians could hold on to me, so it was just they didn’t come up with the number,” Lindor said. “They didn’t have the resources maybe. I am excited I am in a good place that is ready to go win and I am looking forward to it.”
Lindor, who has won two Gold Gloves and helped Cleveland reach the World Series in 2016, said he would prefer to be viewed as somebody who can help the Mets win rather than a player who will carry the team.
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“I have never been the type of player like, ‘Follow me, I will lead you to success,’ ” Lindor said. “I have always been a person that together we all can achieve what we want. That is what I am bringing.
“I am, ‘Let’s find a way to do this together. I know you guys have a great thing going on, I just want to be a little piece of that puzzle. I am not trying to get a rope and hold the rope, and I’ll pull you guys. We are all grabbing the rope right next to each other and we are looking forward.’ That is the best way of doing things and we all are going to lead by example, not just for us, but for everybody in the stands and everybody that is counting on us.”
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Francisco Lindor’s “day by day” approach to life keeps him tethered to the present, but he admits his mind has drifted this offseason to his potential free agency. But the Mets’ star shortstop, acq…nypost.com
It’s just a business. Players do not love cities or fans. They are mercenariesI see Lindor learned from Sabathia and Brantley on how to leave but make it seem like you didn't really want to.
They do love their families and that definitely can play a role. Also they can hate a team or city enough to include them in their no trade lists. Lucroy turned down a chance to play for us and his no trade list was loaded with midwestern cities. Some players won't play in for certain teams/locations no doubt. Others (and likely the vast majority) just want to get paid and some just want the chance to play.It’s just a business. Players do not love cities or fans. They are mercenaries
Or... They can love a city but it doesn't mean they want to spend the rest of their career there. Yes, I think all things considered, if the money was equal Frankie would be here. But that's like saying all things equal, if I looked like Brad Pitt my ex-wife would still be here. But thats never happening, and things aren't equal, and Lindor knows this.It’s just a business. Players do not love cities or fans. They are mercenaries
It is impossible for the $ to be equal. Ever The added endorsement $ he will make in NY is ridiculous compared to Cleveland.Or... They can love a city but it doesn't mean they want to spend the rest of their career there. Yes, I think all things considered, if the money was equal Frankie would be here. But that's like saying all things equal, if I looked like Brad Pitt my ex-wife would still be here. But thats never happening, and things aren't equal, and Lindor knows this.