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You and I are pretty much done now that you have cemented Windler's fate and intertwined it with Cedi.

Seriously, can we stop that super early projections, especially when said player has played well?
I seriously understand what you’re saying about Windler and I respect your views about him....I do! But I see the same patterns in Windler now that I saw in Cedi last year! The main thing is consistency. Now if I’m wrong I’ll be the very first person being on here and admitting I was wrong.
 
I seriously understand what you’re saying about Windler and I respect your views about him....I do! But I see the same patterns in Windler now that I saw in Cedi last year! The main thing is consistency. Now if I’m wrong I’ll be the very first person being on here and admitting I was wrong.

I don't think they are a like at all.

Windler plays with a different, controlled pace and he picks his spots and contributes everywhere. Cedi is streaky, very erratic and relies on his scoring outbursts in order to be a positive contributor. He often brings the team down when he struggles shooting. With Windler, it's just not like that. He can still impact the game when his shot is off. And well, I think he is a much better shooter. Still needs to show it though.

I just don't see the point in bunching them together and just making up your mind that Windler is doomed to fail? it's terrible.
 
Bottom line is he just isn't making shots...if he was shooting like last year 44% overall and 38% from 3 he's fine...
if he's shooting 37% overall and 33 % from 3 he's not really someone your dying to put out there.
Did he really work in the offseason after he signed his contract? Is he just happy being the king of Turkey or
does he really want to be a good NBA player? I really excpected him to continue to get better and up that 3 pointer into the
40 % range. Now I don't care what they do with him.
 
Bottom line is he just isn't making shots...if he was shooting like last year 44% overall and 38% from 3 he's fine...
if he's shooting 37% overall and 33 % from 3 he's not really someone your dying to put out there.
Did he really work in the offseason after he signed his contract? Is he just happy being the king of Turkey or
does he really want to be a good NBA player? I really excpected him to continue to get better and up that 3 pointer into the
40 % range. Now I don't care what they do with him.

I think some of it is the role off the bench isn't what he is use to. In the previous two seasons he has been number 2 in total minutes played only to Sexton. I think he is pressing to make a impact with less minutes. He is taking more shots than before but is playing like 5 minutes less a game. He might be looking at himself to be like Clarkson coming off the bench and be the guy to try to carry the second unit.
 
I think some of it is the role off the bench isn't what he is use to. In the previous two seasons he has been number 2 in total minutes played only to Sexton. I think he is pressing to make a impact with less minutes. He is taking more shots than before but is playing like 5 minutes less a game. He might be looking at himself to be like Clarkson coming off the bench and be the guy to try to carry the second unit.
What I see is a decline in his defense. Not that it is top notch but he is playing the matidor style lately.
 
He doesn't have the talent to make the plays he wants to make, but he goes off and tries them anyway. It's why, on occasion Cedi will do something that shocks you. But more often than not you are just kind of left thinking, "WTF, Cedi?"
It also seems like he doesn't like playing with Collin. Sometimes it feels to me like he's trying to freeze Sexton out when he can.
Might have to attach Wade to Cedi deal if you want something somewhat worth while. Or maybe Cedi and McGee together gets you something?
Cedi is like a well appointed used Kia Soul.. I mean, sure it's got the back up cam and pho-leather seats that are heated, but it's still just a Kia Soul.
 
A change of scenery may do him a world of good.

My guess is that's what other teams are thinking too but it would be selling low on Cedi right now. I think he can be a solid role player but he needs to settle into that role. Wings are valable in this league and we might be able to pump Cedi up alittle more to get some real good value from a contender. Teams always need 3 and D wings. I'm just not sure what Cedi sees himself as or what the organization is asking him to be at this point.
 
He doesn't have the talent to make the plays he wants to make, but he goes off and tries them anyway. It's why, on occasion Cedi will do something that shocks you. But more often than not you are just kind of left thinking, "WTF, Cedi?"
It also seems like he doesn't like playing with Collin. Sometimes it feels to me like he's trying to freeze Sexton out when he can.
Might have to attach Wade to Cedi deal if you want something somewhat worth while. Or maybe Cedi and McGee together gets you something?
Cedi is like a well appointed used Kia Soul.. I mean, sure it's got the back up cam and pho-leather seats that are heated, but it's still just a Kia Soul.
Cedi never lets the game come to him, always rushing. Really do not want to give up Wade. Cedi and Mcgee might net some young player stuck on a bench because of a logjam.
 
ı like Cedi. He is a nice, drama free, hardworking guy and likes to be in Cleveland.

With that being said, the main problem I see in Cedi sometimes that he wants to be a player he is naturally not. Sometimes he goes one-on-one, tries passing people with his dribble, do pull up shots or force his way into a crowded paint or force playmaking and I cringe. It is like his idol is Lebron, so he tries to be a lite version of him.

I really think he actually has potential to be a good role player, he has a high motor, has a good understanding of the game, when he is not forcing but going with the flow of the game a good passer and a playmaker and has potential to be a decent shooter. But I get the impression that he does not want to settle with being a good role player. Instead he focuses on improving his weaknesses too much like dribble, one on one. And he shows that he focuses on these things by having these dumb WTF plays in every other game.

I think Cedi needs to have an honest self-reflection at himself and identify his strengths and play to them. He isn't the most athletic, most naturally gifted player, he is not a natural at dribbling. There are many players in the league that are better than him in these areas and this is a league that has the highest of highest talents competing for roster spots. So if he tries to compete with these players in these areas, he will always look out of place and erratic and he will have a very slim chance to best them, so he will fail miserably. And I think this is usually what happens when he has very bad performances.

What he has is good motor, high energy, good understanding of game, good BBIQ (when he is not forcing things), good passer and floor runner, a good off-ball mover with a decent enough shot (although he is slumping in that area right now). If I were him, the main thing I would aim to be one of the guys in the league that plays the game always the right way, makes good decisions, plays a simple but efficient, clean, low error game, contribute in ways that do not always show in stat sheet.

Offensively, he will never be a focal point or go to guy. He is a guy that will only sometimes get opportunities with good ball movement, with cutting to the paint and occasional drives to the paint when lane is open. And he could be really good if he just stuck to these. He should not force to be something more. Because at this time in his career, he is at a state where dumb plays will cost him significant playing time. Because he isn't young anymore and doesn't show a very high potential, so why should any team tolerate his dumb plays bringing the team down?

If I were him, I would offensively keep it simple, play a low risk clean game and spend more energy defensively. Because I feel he tries things that are not natural to him offensively, it is harder for him to concentrate on the defensive end. And if he doesn't perform good offensively, which has a quite high chance of happening when he is forcing things, his whole game including his defense gets erratic and out of place.
 
I don't think they are a like at all.

Windler plays with a different, controlled pace and he picks his spots and contributes everywhere. Cedi is streaky, very erratic and relies on his scoring outbursts in order to be a positive contributor. He often brings the team down when he struggles shooting. With Windler, it's just not like that. He can still impact the game when his shot is off. And well, I think he is a much better shooter. Still needs to show it though.

I just don't see the point in bunching them together and just making up your mind that Windler is doomed to fail? it's terrible.
Oh I’m not saying he is doomed to fail (I’m not saying that about Cedi either) I just don’t believe either of they are better than a 7th or 8th man on a good team. And if we had more legit talent on our frontline they would be 7th or 8th on our team as well.
 
My opinion is Cedi was a much, much better first year player than Windler. Cedi just regressed over the last three years instead of improving . Cedi Shot over 48% FGs as a rookie, now he's the last guy I want to shoot the ball
 
Never liked this guy. Always looked weird and is just not good at his profession.

Dismiss his career to the cellar. No food, no water and check on it in 11 days to see if it’s still alive.

Be gone, scrub!
 
His numbers say the strong point of his game is passing, which agrees with what I've seen this season. It seems like a couple of times a game I'm saying, "Wow, nice pass".

I'm starting to wonder if Cedi would be effective as one of those 6'7" playmaking guards like LaMelo Ball or Ben Simmons (who's 6'11"). Cedi is an excellent passer and could post up if he were guarded by a smaller guard. He gets outmuscled by a lot of forwards.

He's not cutting it as a small forward but maybe as a shooting guard? He'd have to spend a lot of time working on his dribbling, though.
 

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