Jack Brickman
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I remember hearing a take on a podcast that I totally agreed with. If Schwartz had gone to Alabama instead of Auburn, he’s a first round pick.
I remember hearing a take on a podcast that I totally agreed with. If Schwartz had gone to Alabama instead of Auburn, he’s a first round pick.
I was tremendously disappointed in him before I found out the rule on the punt lol.If he doesn't play with Bo Nix, I do wonder how his college career would have gone.
He looked great yesterday. He stays on his feet for the deep pass, we are talking legendary status.
Also, hot take, but he might be our 2nd best outside WR already. I was so disappointed in DPJ yesterday, looked slow.
If I recall the ball was downed before he touches it. But it seemed brain dead to touch it regardless because Refs are humans and make mistakes all the time. Like the Harrison ejection. They just suck sometimes so why leave it to chance. Yaknow?I was tremendously disappointed in him before I found out the rule on the punt lol.
I thought I had watched a Leon Lett-esque play.
If I recall the ball was downed before he touches it. But it seemed brain dead to touch it regardless because Refs are humans and make mistakes all the time. Like the Harrison ejection. They just suck sometimes so why leave it to chance. Yaknow?
After clarifying.......it actually is an extremely heady play by the rule book. It is basically a get out of jail free card.
Once the defense makes contact with the ball, the ball is awarded to the receiving team. By the rule book, the touching of the ball by KC is actually "illegal touching"......so at that point, the Browns have two options:
1. They can take the ball at the spot of the illegal touch
2. They can take the result of the play
The returning team can effectively do whatever they want without penalty, if the ball has already been touched but not "downed".
This sounds insane but even if if DPJ rips the ball away, runs around in the endzone and is tackled, it isn't a safety. The Browns just take the ball at the 1.
It was a real bang bang play, which made it jarring......but it was very obvious DPJ absolutely knew the rule. And tried to steal some field position.
I read something about the "rule" in the game thread yest and it wasn't broken down like this. So thank you.After clarifying.......it actually is an extremely heady play by the rule book. It is basically a get out of jail free card.
Once the defense makes contact with the ball, the ball is awarded to the receiving team. By the rule book, the touching of the ball by KC is actually "illegal touching"......so at that point, the Browns have two options:
1. They can take the ball at the spot of the illegal touch
2. They can take the result of the play
The returning team can effectively do whatever they want without penalty, if the ball has already been touched but not "downed".
This sounds insane but even if if DPJ rips the ball away, runs around in the endzone and is tackled, it isn't a safety. The Browns just take the ball at the 1.
It was a real bang bang play, which made it jarring......but it was very obvious DPJ absolutely knew the rule. And tried to steal some field position.
re the Harrison ejection… That was totally on Harrison right? You can’t get away with hitting a coach. The coach was pushing him off his guy which happens pretty often. He was probably a little aggro about it but Harrison shoved him hard. The minute I saw that I knew he’d get penalized.If I recall the ball was downed before he touches it. But it seemed brain dead to touch it regardless because Refs are humans and make mistakes all the time. Like the Harrison ejection. They just suck sometimes so why leave it to chance. Yaknow?
re the Harrison ejection… That was totally on Harrison right? You can’t get away with hitting a coach. The coach was pushing him off his guy which happens pretty often. He was probably a little aggro about it but Harrison shoved him hard. The minute I saw that I knew he’d get penalized.
I look at it the other way around…a coach from an opposing team should never lay hands on a player.
That takes masturbation to a whole 'nother level.I think he screwed up a route yesterday, but over all there was a lot to get excited about. The big positive is that after one game, it doesn't look like he has "tits for hands" (as my Russian friends might say)
Yeah that's my perspective on it as well. Coach shouldn't get involved and it wasn't a pull a guy off involvement. It was a shove. So yes he deserved to get shoved back. You can't put your hands on a player than clutch your pearls when he responds in kind.I look at it the other way around…a coach from an opposing team should never lay hands on a player.
I'm ok with a 15yd penalty but the ejection was unjust in my mind.re the Harrison ejection… That was totally on Harrison right? You can’t get away with hitting a coach. The coach was pushing him off his guy which happens pretty often. He was probably a little aggro about it but Harrison shoved him hard. The minute I saw that I knew he’d get penalized.