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I can listen to Peyton and Eli on the broadcast all season. They’re really good. They like, literally know everything on every play lololololololol.
 
Lamar is just disgusting. So hard to beat.
 
Without fail every time the ravens NEED a play it’s with Lamar’s legs.

every time.
 
Don't get why people hate on Derrick Carr.

He's a good QB. Is he a future HoFer? No. But he's been a top 15 QB in the league his whole career. You can win with him.
 
Nah, can't win with that stache, or any stache for that matter (science). Ask Minshew.
 
Rich said:
Don't get why people hate on Derrick Carr.

He's a good QB. Is he a future HoFer? No. But he's been a top 15 QB in the league his whole career. You can win with him.
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  1. Brady
  2. Rodgers
  3. Mahomes
  4. Wilson
  5. Allen
  6. Mayfield
  7. Lamar
  8. Burrow
  9. Herbert
  10. Watson
  11. Tannehill
  12. Prescott
  13. Stafford
  14. Kyler
  15. Ryan
I don't think he's top-15. That's without even using the questionable ones like Roethlisberger, Cousins, Tua etc--or going back a year and adding in players like Brees.

Carr is fine. He's not great. The rest of that team is worse than Carr.
 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
  1. Brady
  2. Rodgers
  3. Mahomes
  4. Wilson
  5. Allen
  6. Mayfield
  7. Lamar
  8. Burrow
  9. Herbert
  10. Watson
  11. Tannehill
  12. Prescott
  13. Stafford
  14. Kyler
  15. Ryan
I don't think he's top-15. That's without even using the questionable ones like Roethlisberger, Cousins, Tua etc--or going back a year and adding in players like Brees.

Carr is fine. He's not great. The rest of that team is worse than Carr.
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So, I don't wanna make this into a Mayfield thread because I like Baker and think he tooks a little too much heat on this forum.

But only a Cleveland Browns fan would have Baker as the 6th best QB in the league, ahead of guys like Prescott, Lamar, and Watson.


Anyway, the stats on Carr back me up.

2020:

He was 11th in QBR, 10th in Rating, 10th in Completion Percentage, and 6th in yards per attempt

2019:

10th in QBR, 9th in Rating, 2nd in Completion %, and 10th in Yards per attempt


I really do think he's one of the more underrated players in the league, where the perception of Carr is far worse than the actual player.

He's closer to a top 10 QB than being outside the top 15.
 
Rich said:
So, I don't wanna make this into a Mayfield thread because I like Baker and think he tooks a little too much heat on this forum.

But only a Cleveland Browns fan would have Baker as the 6th best QB in the league, ahead of guys like Prescott, Lamar, and Watson.


Anyway, the stats on Carr back me up.

2020:

He was 11th in QBR, 10th in Rating, 10th in Completion Percentage, and 6th in yards per attempt

2019:

10th in QBR, 9th in Rating, 2nd in Completion %, and 10th in Yards per attempt


I really do think he's one of the more underrated players in the league, where the perception of Carr is far worse than the actual player.

He's closer to a top 10 QB than being outside the top 15.
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That list isn't in order. The numbers are there to count 15. I threw four off the top of my head then decided to go division by division, just counting the number of "no doubters" ahead of Carr.

You can pull out specific stats, but they're pretty meaningless. I'm guessing the running players like Lamar and Kyler are below him in QBR and whatnot, right? Nobody in their right mind is taking Carr over them.
 
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To support the Carr train- Gruden basically neutralizes his best asset, which is ball placement down field.

The Edwards and Jones throws in OT were bonkers throws.
 
Out of the Rafters at the Q said:
That list isn't in order. The numbers are there to count 15. I threw four off the top of my head then decided to go division by division, just counting the number of "no doubters" ahead of Carr.

You can pull out specific stats, but they're pretty meaningless. I'm guessing the running players like Lamar and Kyler are below him in QBR and whatnot, right? Nobody in their right mind is taking Carr over them.
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No the passing stats love Lamar Jackson, aside from raw number of attempts and total passing yards. He's ahead of Carr in QBR.


But if we're gonna just toss all of the stats out the window then I'm not sure what we're basing this on. If it's just wins and losses then I don't know why Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford would be considered better QBs than Carr at this point.
 
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