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Somebody is getting put on the bench for Rubio, period.


Who is it? My guess is Sexton.


The only issue with that is Sexton being benched in a contract year will likely ruin us in contract talks AND it would hurt his trade value at the deadline. Our first, Sexton and maybe another players looks like a good package for Ben SImmons right now, but our package is GREATLY damaged if Sexton is a bench player.
 
Kizzle said:
Somebody is getting put on the bench for Rubio, period.


Who is it? My guess is Sexton.


The only issue with that is Sexton being benched in a contract year will likely ruin us in contract talks AND it would hurt his trade value at the deadline. Our first, Sexton and maybe another players looks like a good package for Ben SImmons right now, but our package is GREATLY damaged if Sexton is a bench player.
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It should be garland. Why play two pgs together ? I think Rubio can help sexton playing together
 
Rubio definitely needs to spend a lot of minutes on the floor with Mobley, however that happens.
 
We were missing a player of Rubio's caliber on the floor last season. The period where it came down to Cedi just so that there's some semblance of offense especially. The fact that he seems to provide some level of engagement for Kevin Love alone was worth whatever it cost to acquire him.
 
CavsFan07 said:
Rubio > Sexton and Garland

I don't care who he starts over, but he should be starting.
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I keep thinking, "Who would be more motivated moving to the bench"

I don't think you can motivate Sexton more. He is going to just go. Maybe Rubio can help him maximize his scoring ability on the floor.

You could send Garland to the bench, where he isn't fighting to be the main man and let him figure it out. Maybe he can come out of his shell easier that way.

Just seems like you aren't going to get more out of Sexton letting him run the show, but he has played well with a pg.
 
Cavatt said:
I keep thinking, "Who would be more motivated moving to the bench"

I don't think you can motivate Sexton more. He is going to just go. Maybe Rubio can help him maximize his scoring ability on the floor.

You could send Garland to the bench, where he isn't fighting to be the main man and let him figure it out. Maybe he can come out of his shell easier that way.

Just seems like you aren't going to get more out of Sexton letting him run the show, but he has played well with a pg.
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I feel like we are putting alot on Rubio to help guys develop while the coaching staff doesn't seem to be doing their part in the development of all the young players. Like Delly helped Sexton but it could only go so far because we have no system or much of a playbook.

Rubio has that natural vision but a ton of experience so he knows what guys are doing off the ball and can make the appropriate pass to allow them to score easily. I feel like that's where we are lacking in developing our players, giving them plays where it shows them appropriate ways to cut, move, pass, etc so they gain that knowledge.

Rubio and Delly are great passers that can help teach guys how to play off the ball but we haven't brought in the vet players that can play well off the ball and help our young guard develop further as passers. It would be so much easier to figure out how we split up players if we had that balance of both a vet playmaker and vets that are good off the ball. We could be developing all our young players to learning the same plays or a system where the other players are executing properly and they would ultimately not need the vets anymore.
 
inliner311 said:
I feel like we are putting alot on Rubio to help guys develop while the coaching staff doesn't seem to be doing their part in the development of all the young players. Like Delly helped Sexton but it could only go so far because we have no system or much of a playbook.

Rubio has that natural vision but a ton of experience so he knows what guys are doing off the ball and can make the appropriate pass to allow them to score easily. I feel like that's where we are lacking in developing our players, giving them plays where it shows them appropriate ways to cut, move, pass, etc so they gain that knowledge.

Rubio and Delly are great passers that can help teach guys how to play off the ball but we haven't brought in the vet players that can play well off the ball and help our young guard develop further as passers. It would be so much easier to figure out how we split up players if we had that balance of both a vet playmaker and vets that are good off the ball. We could be developing all our young players to learning the same plays or a system where the other players are executing properly and they would ultimately not need the vets anymore.
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Coach says he hasn't implemented player specific offense yet. I guess we are only seeing the bare bones of the offense. Word was both Garland and Sexton were breaking the offense off and not running it even as they were in practice. Now, how can you get through to them and have them actually run sets instead of going 1 on 1.

Losing a starting spot to Rubio ought to do it. Now that Mobley is on board, the SL should be tailored to him. If that means any of Sexton, Garland or Okoro need to re-earn their spot because of that, I have no problem with it. Right now there are guys behind these fellas who are playing better. They need to do as the coaches ask them, and if they are serious about accountability they should agree with it.
 
Cavatt said:
Coach says he hasn't implemented player specific offense yet. I guess we are only seeing the bare bones of the offense. Word was both Garland and Sexton were breaking the offense off and not running it even as they were in practice. Now, how can you get through to them and have them actually run sets instead of going 1 on 1.

Losing a starting spot to Rubio ought to do it. Now that Mobley is on board, the SL should be tailored to him. If that means any of Sexton, Garland or Okoro need to re-earn their spot because of that, I have no problem with it. Right now there are guys behind these fellas who are playing better. They need to do as the coaches ask them, and if they are serious about accountability they should agree with it.
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I think adjusting their games to fit in such a scenario will be one of the biggest challenges for
both Sexton and Garland, just for different reasons.
 
kidduck said:
I think adjusting their games to fit in such a scenario will be one of the biggest challenges for
both Sexton and Garland, just for different reasons.
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I think Fedor said something like Sexton and Mobley have good chemistry in practice. We haven't seen that at all yet. I can see that two man game being deadly where Mobley is more of the playmaker and they are doing handoffs and pick and roll. The reason I think Rubio/Sexton might make more sense is that Sexton repeatedly took advantage of steals and blocks for easy buckets on the other end even when the rest of his game was lacking.

IF Garland was splashing 3's off passes from the interior that could sway me.

In reality we haven't seen enough yet, and have yet to see what a regular season game looks like. Still, both the Bulls and the Hawks sure seemed like they were trying pretty hard. Looked like regular season effort
 
CavsFan07 said:
Rubio > Sexton and Garland

I don't care who he starts over, but he should be starting.
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Never going to happen. Is Rubio a better player? - yes. Does he give us the best chance at winning? - yes. But we are in the awful phase of the rebuild where we aren't playing the players that give us the best chance to win today. We are playing young, inexperienced, physically gifted, guys that we hope will turn into good basketball players someday. The sad truth is you can be terrible at basketball at 21 and still log far more minutes than the guy who is better but 27. It's makes for bad basketball, but its what the NBA does. Always looking for the "next guy".
 
Dr No said:
Never going to happen. Is Rubio a better player? - yes. Does he give us the best chance at winning? - yes. But we are in the awful phase of the rebuild where we aren't playing the players that give us the best chance to win today. We are playing young, inexperienced, physically gifted, guys that we hope will turn into good basketball players someday. The sad truth is you can be terrible at basketball at 21 and still log far more minutes than the guy who is better but 27. It's makes for bad basketball, but its what the NBA does. Always looking for the "next guy".
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Now that Ricky and Lauri have been brought in and they have committed to Jarrett, they need to be really careful about playing a young guy "no matter what".

It's in the best interest of all the young players to win and learn what it takes to win. Only Jarrett and Cedi have been on teams that won more than bottom of the barrel amount of games.

You risk losing the vets, and stunting the growth of the other young guys if they are too stubborn about starting only lottery picks and Jarrett.
 
Cavatt said:
Coach says he hasn't implemented player specific offense yet. I guess we are only seeing the bare bones of the offense. Word was both Garland and Sexton were breaking the offense off and not running it even as they were in practice. Now, how can you get through to them and have them actually run sets instead of going 1 on 1.

Losing a starting spot to Rubio ought to do it. Now that Mobley is on board, the SL should be tailored to him. If that means any of Sexton, Garland or Okoro need to re-earn their spot because of that, I have no problem with it. Right now there are guys behind these fellas who are playing better. They need to do as the coaches ask them, and if they are serious about accountability they should agree with it.
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Bro, but how can you run an offense when there is no offensive system to be run?

Hasn't installed an offense, then what are we doing during practice? Defensive slides and working on jump shot form for 2 hours then back to the hotel room? They break off plays?! Stop things and make them run through again, repeatedly.

Even just running 5 out is better than ISO. Pass, cut to hoop or screen away. Throw in some flex, horns, just simple stuff that creates action beats aimlessly wasting away the 24.
 
Beanie4Heisman said:
Bro, but how can you run an offense when there is no offensive system to be run?

Hasn't installed an offense, then what are we doing during practice? Defensive slides and working on jump shot form for 2 hours then back to the hotel room? They break off plays?! Stop things and make them run through again, repeatedly.

Even just running 5 out is better than ISO. Pass, cut to hoop or screen away. Throw in some flex, horns, just simple stuff that creates action beats aimlessly wasting away the 24.
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There is an offensive system to be run -Rubio was running it. What hasn't yet been done is the installation of different offensive packages specific to certain personnel groups.
 
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