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I sure as hell wouldn't trade Palacios to get Happ for 2022.Honestly I think I'd take Palacios over Happ for 2022.
I sure as hell wouldn't trade Palacios to get Happ for 2022.
Yep, the MIF is the toughest one to figure out right now. Whoever you part with could be the best of the bunch, so for me it would need to be for a good 3+ years controllable bat.Well said Tondo. Thank you.
Yes, he wants Reynolds or Mullins and would pay a hefty price to get one of them because he thinks they alone will put us as the division favorites. Ironically, I would pay a hefty price as well, it just wouldn't be with the upper level prospects other than maybe Jones or Bo Naylor if Josh goes with him.
I do agree with CATS that there is more MIFers than will be needed. Where we part ways is I don't know which ones I would keep at this time. That's all I'm trying to say.
I think Chernoff absolutely knows who he will or won't trade at this point.. your list has many, not all of "them" listed.. Some of the lower level guys that should make your "rather not trade" list include Palacios, Williams, Xzavion and others.......I am willing to trade "them", I'm just not sure who is "them" at this time and I doubt Chernoff does either.
We would all like to know.
Yeah I didn't list them all, but Palacios and Xzavion are in the upper levels now and I'm not interested in dealing either of them. I would deal Williams for the right bat, but I'm not looking to trade him so there would have to be a very good reason to do so. A rebuilding team like Pittsburgh may be inclined to take him. Does Williams, Jones, Martinez, and Burns get it done? If not then they want too much for my liking. If they like that return then make it happen.I think Chernoff absolutely knows who he will or won't trade at this point.. your list has many, not all of "them" listed.. Some of the lower level guys that should make your "rather not trade" list include Palacios, Williams, Xzavion and others..
Chernoff makes the big money.. it's his job to know !!..
Thoughts?
I'll compromise on this.. Chernoff has a pretty good idea of who he would prefer to deal.. and who he would prefer to keep.. none are, as you're alluding to, absolute and need more time to fully arrive at a decision..Yeah I didn't list them all, but Palacios and Xzavion are in the upper levels now and I'm not interested in dealing either of them. I would deal Williams for the right bat, but I'm not looking to trade him so there would have to be a very good reason to do so. A rebuilding team like Pittsburgh may be inclined to take him. Does Williams, Jones, Martinez, and Burns get it done? If not then they want too much for my liking. If they like that return then make it happen.
No, I don't agree that Chernoff knows who he would prefer to deal out of the MIF bunch. Like Tondo said, whoever we part with could end up being the best.
Nothing is certain in baseball. With all our OF options the chance is high we can get something reasonable out of some combination of them, enough to fill up maybe one slot with potentially some surplus off the bench.
It's not even like a Zimmer/Mercado platoon isn't significantly over replacement level.
Comparing Palacios/Kwan to Owen Miller and Jones isn't exactly fair either. First off they (in particular Kwan) have put up convincing numbers in AAA beyond just BABIP magic (see: Miller). Jones is still highly regarded, but had never shown anything in AAA prior to 2021 so he's hardly similar.
Per Fangraphs:
Of 275 hitters with at least 800 plate appearances since the start of 2019, Kwan boasts the following accolades:
- He is one of just two hitters with more walks (10.1%) than strikeouts (9.3%), the other being Isaac Paredes
- He has the highest ratio of walks to strikeouts (1.09 BB/K)
- He has the lowest swinging strike rate (3.2%) by more than one-and-a-half percentage points
I don't think he lacks speed at all. In his brief minor league career he has stolen 87 bases and been thrown out 9 times. He's a good defensive CFer too. So his power or lack thereof begs the question. Is he a capable LFer? There's really only 1 way to find out. He might be the closest thing to Michael Brantley we've had. If the power he showed in Columbus last season is sustainable then he's a 20 HR hitter with excellent OBP and contact skills. I'd take that with good defense every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Worst case scenario is that he's a damn fine 4th OFer/late inning defensive replacement.Essentially Kwan knows the strike zone very well... if the kid had more power, he would likely be a top 100 prospect. Since they did add him to the 40 man roster they must of felt he could play in the pros. He isnt flashy, but outside of some power issues and average speed (maybe a little below average) for an OF, he does everything well.
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Who says no?
You do realize that the central component of the deal for the Guardians would be Ketel Marte, All-Star and MVP finalist who is on an insanely team-friendly contract for three more seasons, right?I do.
If were trading Espino and Freeman, we better go after Reynolds first and worry about catcher later.