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2023 Browns Offseason Thread: Tamper Time Is Upon Us

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Soar said:
Jordan Elliott deciding to really shit the bed the first year he had a chance to make a name for himself was a blow.

We also drafted Togiai who has been dreadful and honestly I’m surprised by that one.

Winfrey might still be okay.

But we have drafted guys.
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Togiai is horrible! Dude gets pushed back or tossed aside like he’s on roller skates literally every play. Winfrey has shown promise but Jordan Elliot is nothing special and don’t think he’s made any impact plays. So we need to fix this position asap
 
willglam said:
Togiai is horrible! Dude gets pushed back or tossed aside like he’s on roller skates literally every play. Winfrey has shown promise but Jordan Elliot is nothing special and don’t think he’s made any impact plays. So we need to fix this position asap
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He's wasn't saying they're good players.

He was simply saying the Browns HAVE attempted to address the position with multiple draft picks and all three picks, to date, have been busts.
 
 
Soar said:
Jordan Elliott deciding to really shit the bed the first year he had a chance to make a name for himself was a blow.

We also drafted Togiai who has been dreadful and honestly I’m surprised by that one.

Winfrey might still be okay.

But we have drafted guys.
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So get a FO that can draft.
 
Looking at the amount spent on a 2nd contract, whats the difference between "draft and develop" vs "sign already developed" players? Unless you get a stud that performs in years 1-4, the cost to retain hasnt seemed any cheaper than signing a guy from another team.
 
adam81king said:
Looking at the amount spent on a 2nd contract, whats the difference between "draft and develop" vs "sign already developed" players? Unless you get a stud that performs in years 1-4, the cost to retain hasnt seemed any cheaper than signing a guy from another team.
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Most players who sign extensions before they hit unrestricted free agency end up ultimately getting less than they would on the open market.

They trade in some (not a lot) of future earnings for the immediate security.
 
CBBI said:
Most players who sign extensions before they hit unrestricted free agency end up ultimately getting less than they would on the open market.

They trade in some (not a lot) of future earnings for the immediate security.
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Not calling you out, but genuinely asking, what are some (any?) DT examples of this?
 
adam81king said:
Looking at the amount spent on a 2nd contract, whats the difference between "draft and develop" vs "sign already developed" players? Unless you get a stud that performs in years 1-4, the cost to retain hasnt seemed any cheaper than signing a guy from another team.
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I think the idea is that you develop a pipeline of talent so even if you lose guys to free agency you have new guys to fill the gaps.

So instead of paying a ton to keep a good player, you get younger cheaper talent to replace guys.

And you don’t panic if you lose someone and aren’t desperate to add someone.
 
Soar said:
I think the idea is that you develop a pipeline of talent so even if you lose guys to free agency you have new guys to fill the gaps.

So instead of paying a ton to keep a good player, you get younger cheaper talent to replace guys.

And you don’t panic if you lose someone and aren’t desperate to add someone.
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But isn't that what you should do with *every* position? I guess I'm either confused, or overanalyzing the importance of DT being in the tweet I'm responding to.
 
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