TheLand1287
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I didn't "spend my evening here"......I came in and gave a few jabs. And in that process, have repeatedly have identified people with paper mache skin. Plenty of others have been good sports about it......but here you are again, worrying about what people are doing with their own time. I find it odd that you don't actually participate in this thread but want to worry about what others are doing in it.
You are entirely out of touch with reality if you believe this (vacate) stuff at this point......that is all the comment was about. Seemed pretty simple to understand. You have spent way too much time reading the fantasy stories all these Ohio State media personalities are telling about NCAA sanctions and the wet dreams about a title being vacated (that isn't even awarded by the NCAA). I said if Harbaugh knew, he would be fired. The NCAA already came out and publicly said they did not have evidence that he did.
Has nothing to do with chest pumping time. It was a couple light hearted barbs that you apparently can't stomach. Michigan laid waste to all comers......there's nothing left. Anyone hanging on to this stuff is just desperate. And it does seem desperate to jump in a thread and start trying to be the message board police. Stallions was removed, coach was suspended, Michigan ran through two top 10 teams, won another conference title, beat Bama and snuffed out the only undefeated team left. Carry on with all this if you want. The only people clutching these pearls are your types.
I've posted in here in the past. There are certain members in Buckeye subsection (hint: named after a Transformer) that I can't tolerate so have resorted to more lurker status than posting and engaging with those types. Not trying to police anything. Just calling a spade a spade. The way you engaged people was much different months ago than what it is today. You went from reasonable and level headed to full on Twitter troll that's embracing the villain role. You just admitted you only came in here last night to throw barbs. Even just changed your avi to Jim Harbough.
And maybe Ohio State fans, I cant speak for all, feel that wins could be vacated because it quite literally happened to Ohio State a little over a decade ago over something minor in retrospect compared to what Michigan is being accused of. I also dont expect wins will be vacated but alot of that has to do with the NCAA being a shell of itself today compared to what it was in the past. Also, they did next to nothing to Kansas. Basically the NCAA is telling us if you arent cheating in 2023 you arent trying.
There's no point in jumping to conclusions about what Michigan did/didnt do because we dont have all the information yet. Taking the cheating allegations out of it I will say this about this Michigan team and their natty as just some random guy's opinion on a message board...
- They're a very good team. Maybe not as elite talent wise like the teams that are consistently top 5 in recruiting, but a very strong team that developed, schemes well, and their players play hard for the guy next to them.
- Having 40+ seniors and 6th year guys was a massive benefit when playing against a lot of 18-20 year olds. That additional COVID year can't end soon enough. Good for them for using it to their advantage while the Alabama's, Georgia's, Ohio State's of the world are very much churn and burn with NFL talent leaving after 3 years and 5 star backups getting impatient and transferring out. The playing field has been leveled in recent years.
- Jim, even if he is on the spectrum, is a very good coach. I think the most surprising thing is it took him 6 years to start beating good teams and 9 years to win a title. This new age of college football (increased eligibility, transfer portal) combined with some help from his brother on assistant coaches definitely helped change the narrative of his time there.
- I'm not saying Ohio State wins a rematch but the Big Ten and their love for lopsided divisions cost the CFB world a rematch at a neutral site. The Game was very competitive and played at Michigan. Not an extreme statement to say a neutral site rematch would have went another way, but we'll never know. Is what it is.
- Alabama win was nice, and yes Bama beat Georgia, but I think anyone that knows ball would say Bama was pretty flawed this year and they just got Georgia on a good day. I would be interested to see Georgia vs Michigan. I still think Georgia would likely be both favored and win that game but we'll never know. Michigan beat the teams in front of them which is all you can ask, but this was far from the hardest road to a title.
I'm not saying that last bullet to be disingenuous but I've seen alot of Michigan fans this morning say this is one of the best CFB teams of all time. I think they were more of a "team of destiny" in a sense. A lot of sports is timing and everything clicked at the right time for them. They had the adversity, albeit self inflicted, but they also had a lot of things go their way. I think they are a very good team. I also think the following went in their favor... covid year, transfer portal leveling the playing field, cupcake schedule, OSU at home, avoided playing either Georgia or FSU with Jordan Travis who I think with him they were on that same tier with Michigan, Bama only getting in because Texas got in and because FSU was on a backup QB. Credit to Michigan's defense for a good gameplan but Penix all of a sudden he and his WRs shit down their legs after lighting up it all year. That's sports though. Just being the most talented team doesnt guarantee you anything. Need some lucky breaks along the way. They won the games in front of them, thus they're a worthy champion. It will be interesting to see what happens next for them assuming Harbough and JJ leave and all the guys that are out of eligibility. I would think Minter goes with Harbough, and Moore is the next HC. Uncharted territory for them for sure.