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2024 Guardians Spring Training Thread
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We had 124 last year. With health, I think the Naylor brothers can certainly raise their numbers. Bo had 11 in just 67 games.
Amed and Straw obviously contributed next to nothing for HRs.
But are Rocchio and Laureano/Brennan/Florial going to give you that much more?
Plus you are losing Josh Bell's 11 HRs.
I think a lot depends on how fast a guy like Manzardo or even DeLauter get here. If sooner than later I think we can sneak over 150. If not, might be higher but still under.
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This really came out of nowhere, with Straw gone and all.
Speaking of CF - Florial may end up like last year's Arias; tons of Ks and a BA around .200, but he'll hit a few dongs to make your jockstrap wet a bit.
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I think Freeman and/or Laureano end up higher in the order. But, seems about right.
1. Kwan
2. Freeman/Laureano
3. Ramirez
4. Naylor
5. Gimenez
6. Laureano/Freeman
7. Naylor
8. Fry
9. Rocchio
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The only relief pitcher they would get is that C. Considerations guy who gets passed around all the time.
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Even though Manzardo should the DH I can live with this for now!
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If things remain as they are I'll take the under, but they'll be above the 124 from last year. They'll still be last in the league I'd guess. However, should Manzardo, DeLauter or Rodriguez get promoted and perform there could be a significant spike. Another wild card is Florial and how many AB Arias gets. As poor as his overall numbers were last season he was on pace to hit 20 or so. I want them to dig themselves out of the cellar, but I just don't know.
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as the last few days of Spring Training come into focus.. the Guardians roster has a few fringe areas that need to be addressed, however, this roster is pretty close to being set.. A couple of notes:
1. Pitching.. The rotation or Starting Pitching Staff (Gavin Williams/Curry/Lively) will break camp off these three guys off the active roster. The Big Rig's place will be shared or given to old friend Carlos Carrasco with able/capable Tyler Beede and Joey Cantillo backing him up. Otherwise.. this is a very solid group that has performed wonderfully in the spring.. This can and should be the strongest part of the club, especially when the Big Rig returns.. Both Curry and Lively can and will be considered for the starting rotation and/or bullpen upon their readiness for play being affirmed.. Relief pitching has been devastated from the inside out. Trevor Stephan, Sam Hentges and James Karinchak have missed most or all of Spring Training.. The good news.. it appears that both Hentges and Karinchak (sketchy report on him) will be back. The schedule for their return is unknown.. Stephan is done for the year.. The pen is ably staffed with a solid core of veterans and hard throwing youngsters.. There will be some growing pains, however, there is enough vet leadership to overcome the inconsistency to be expected from guys like Tim Herrin, Cade Smith and even Hunter Gaddis. Both Herrin and Smith have options available to be sent to the minors if performance warrants. There are several choices in the minors to consider for the pen, if it comes to that... Eli Morgan and Nick Sandlin also have options... in the possible event they run into health or performance issues.. These four guys are the most vulnerable for demotion if performance becomes an issue..
2. Infield.. Was shown today that even Vogt/CleFO hasn't figured it out today.. Catching will be adequately manned by Bo Naylor while being backed up by Austin Hedges. Hedges should be given consideration for player of the spring with the way he's performed. If he can carry this into the 2024 regular season.. one area of major concern for the Guardians coming into the spring may be assuaged. History has a tendency to prove otherwise, imho.. David Fry represents a stop gap if either Hedges or Bo have any issues. Fry further augments the versatility of the squad by being able to stand in the outfield and attempt to NOT butcher anything that comes his way.. He also wears a first baseman's shovel from time to time for the simple reason that he won't completely embarrass the Guardians. Arias / Freeman / Rocchio will all shuffle into and out of the lineup on any given day with only Rocchio being designated, mostly, but not completely, for a single spot (SS).. Freeman and Arias will each play SS, 3B, & 2B... Freeman will play a lot of CF while Arias will add to his versatility as he can and should play some 1B & RF... This infield has a chance to be perhaps the best defensive group in MLB. Arias / Rocchio are the most vulnerable for demotion.. That would be unlikely..
3. Outfield.. Kwan is the LF'er.. will play every day.. Brennan and Laureano represent the next best pair for RF and some CF.. Freeman is slated for the starting nod in CF... That leaves Florial, who, for the life of me, I can't understand what he offers this squad.. He's the most vulnerable player on the squad, period.. I would rather see someone like Schneemann or Planez in that spot than this undisciplined windmill.. But that's just me..
Thoughts?
1. Pitching.. The rotation or Starting Pitching Staff (Gavin Williams/Curry/Lively) will break camp off these three guys off the active roster. The Big Rig's place will be shared or given to old friend Carlos Carrasco with able/capable Tyler Beede and Joey Cantillo backing him up. Otherwise.. this is a very solid group that has performed wonderfully in the spring.. This can and should be the strongest part of the club, especially when the Big Rig returns.. Both Curry and Lively can and will be considered for the starting rotation and/or bullpen upon their readiness for play being affirmed.. Relief pitching has been devastated from the inside out. Trevor Stephan, Sam Hentges and James Karinchak have missed most or all of Spring Training.. The good news.. it appears that both Hentges and Karinchak (sketchy report on him) will be back. The schedule for their return is unknown.. Stephan is done for the year.. The pen is ably staffed with a solid core of veterans and hard throwing youngsters.. There will be some growing pains, however, there is enough vet leadership to overcome the inconsistency to be expected from guys like Tim Herrin, Cade Smith and even Hunter Gaddis. Both Herrin and Smith have options available to be sent to the minors if performance warrants. There are several choices in the minors to consider for the pen, if it comes to that... Eli Morgan and Nick Sandlin also have options... in the possible event they run into health or performance issues.. These four guys are the most vulnerable for demotion if performance becomes an issue..
2. Infield.. Was shown today that even Vogt/CleFO hasn't figured it out today.. Catching will be adequately manned by Bo Naylor while being backed up by Austin Hedges. Hedges should be given consideration for player of the spring with the way he's performed. If he can carry this into the 2024 regular season.. one area of major concern for the Guardians coming into the spring may be assuaged. History has a tendency to prove otherwise, imho.. David Fry represents a stop gap if either Hedges or Bo have any issues. Fry further augments the versatility of the squad by being able to stand in the outfield and attempt to NOT butcher anything that comes his way.. He also wears a first baseman's shovel from time to time for the simple reason that he won't completely embarrass the Guardians. Arias / Freeman / Rocchio will all shuffle into and out of the lineup on any given day with only Rocchio being designated, mostly, but not completely, for a single spot (SS).. Freeman and Arias will each play SS, 3B, & 2B... Freeman will play a lot of CF while Arias will add to his versatility as he can and should play some 1B & RF... This infield has a chance to be perhaps the best defensive group in MLB. Arias / Rocchio are the most vulnerable for demotion.. That would be unlikely..
3. Outfield.. Kwan is the LF'er.. will play every day.. Brennan and Laureano represent the next best pair for RF and some CF.. Freeman is slated for the starting nod in CF... That leaves Florial, who, for the life of me, I can't understand what he offers this squad.. He's the most vulnerable player on the squad, period.. I would rather see someone like Schneemann or Planez in that spot than this undisciplined windmill.. But that's just me..
Thoughts?