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How yall feel about the current roster vs last season.I thought the team would win 30 games last season. I was totally wrong about it. The drama with the roster vs Beilin didn't help either. Hopefully,everyone is one the same page this season because I really think this team can win 30 games and compete for the 10th spot.

If,the team can show progress on offense/defense and be around 17th in both categories that's a win in my book.
 
How yall feel about the current roster vs last season.I thought the team would win 30 games last season. I was totally wrong about it. The drama with the roster vs Beilin didn't help either. Hopefully,everyone is one the same page this season because I really think this team can win 30 games and compete for the 10th spot.

If,the team can show progress on offense/defense and be around 17th in both categories that's a win in my book.
I like the roster and think the maturation of our young players, coupled with the additions of Drummond, Okoro, Windler, & McGee, will make a world of difference. They already showed vast improvement under JBB and after acquiring Drummond, but then Covid hit. I really think the Cavaliers can contend for a playoff spot with Orlando & Indiana. I don’t think we’ll be one of the worst teams in the East, by any means.
 
How yall feel about the current roster vs last season.I thought the team would win 30 games last season. I was totally wrong about it. The drama with the roster vs Beilin didn't help either. Hopefully,everyone is one the same page this season because I really think this team can win 30 games and compete for the 10th spot.

If,the team can show progress on offense/defense and be around 17th in both categories that's a win in my book.
They were a 24-win team last year if they played 82 games with a .292 win percentage. They might have done better since they were 4-5 under Bickerstaff. So 30 wins this year is definitely attainable, although with a 72-game schedule that might be a push. They played much better under JBB than with Bielien. Can they go 30-42? That's going to be tough.

As I see it there are a number of wild cards.

1. How much improvement from their rookie seasons will we see from Garland and Porter, both of whom will get a lot of minutes?

2. How much will newbies Windler, Okoro, and Dotson contribute and how quickly?

3. How much will the Cavs miss Tristan Thompson's leadership and talent?

4. Will the center position be improved or weakened by replacing Thompson, Henson, and Zizic with Drummond and McGee?

5. Andre Drummond is a 27-year-old two-time All-Star with eight seasons and 600 games of experience, but the Pistons practically gave him away saying his game doesn't translate to wins. Is his game going to help or hurt the Cavs? Is he willing to modify his game if asked to conform with JBB's style of play? Will he accept a complementary role with Sexton, Love, and Porter being the primary scorers and Garland, Nance, Windler, and Okoro being secondary scorers? Will he get enough shots to keep him happy? Or will he want to pad his stat sheet every night to set himself up for a big contract at the end of the season?

6. How many more wins will having JBB instead of Bielien translate to?

On paper the Cavs are much improved with Thompson being the only significant loss from the team that finished the season winning 6 of their last 13. They've replaced TT with Drummond as the starting center, added Okoro and Windler at SF, and added Dotson at SG. McGee replaces Henson/Zizic as the backup center. Garland and Porter are expected to be significantly better and Sexton has improved every year. Kevin Love has had eight months off which could do wonders for him.

But to make the playoffs they would have to jump ahead of seven teams, which is probably not realistic. But an increase in their win percentage from 29.2% to 35% would give them a 25-47 record, which is about what I expect. OTOH, they should be able to increase their win percentage by 6% just on the coaching change. Add in the roster upgrades and I could see 30-42 if everything goes right, Love stays healthy, and Drummond does what he's asked.
 
If Nance has been working on his jump shot and low post moves he could reduce Love’s minutes drastically. I love Kevin but Nance is quicker and more athletic but until he improves that “flat” jumper and improves his footwork on the box K Love will continue to get the balk of the PF minutes.
Love’s jumper has always been flat, so I doubt that’s going to change. He still shoots it quite effectively though. Love is likely to start games, but I look for Nance to start taking the bulk of the minutes at PF and he will likely finish games, since he’s much better defensively. We’re likely stuck with Love for another year or two before his contract will be tradable.
 
Love’s jumper has always been flat, so I doubt that’s going to change. He still shoots it quite effectively though. Love is likely to start games, but I look for Nance to start taking the bulk of the minutes at PF and he will likely finish games, since he’s much better defensively. We’re likely stuck with Love for another year or two before his contract will be tradable.
I'm not talking about Love's shot (his shot is nowhere near being flat) I'm talking about Nance's shot. With the of TT, Nance has the worst release of any of our frontcourt players. As for taking away Love's minutes at the end of games.....I don't see that because at the end of close games you need scorers on the floor. I was listening to a sports talk show here in Sac and rumor out of Warrior town is that the GM there (with the loss of Klay) is "exploring" what it might take to get Love from the Cavs.
 
I think the Cavs only really won games they got hot in. It will all change of they can play some defense. Win total completely depends on JB s ability to get some defense going. I think the offensive talent can win 30 wins, just depends on the d
 
They were a 24-win team last year if they played 82 games with a .292 win percentage. They might have done better since they were 4-5 under Bickerstaff. So 30 wins this year is definitely attainable, although with a 72-game schedule that might be a push. They played much better under JBB than with Bielien. Can they go 30-42? That's going to be tough.

As I see it there are a number of wild cards.

1. How much improvement from their rookie seasons will we see from Garland and Porter, both of whom will get a lot of minutes?

2. How much will newbies Windler, Okoro, and Dotson contribute and how quickly?

3. How much will the Cavs miss Tristan Thompson's leadership and talent?

4. Will the center position be improved or weakened by replacing Thompson, Henson, and Zizic with Drummond and McGee?

5. Andre Drummond is a 27-year-old two-time All-Star with eight seasons and 600 games of experience, but the Pistons practically gave him away saying his game doesn't translate to wins. Is his game going to help or hurt the Cavs? Is he willing to modify his game if asked to conform with JBB's style of play? Will he accept a complementary role with Sexton, Love, and Porter being the primary scorers and Garland, Nance, Windler, and Okoro being secondary scorers? Will he get enough shots to keep him happy? Or will he want to pad his stat sheet every night to set himself up for a big contract at the end of the season?

6. How many more wins will having JBB instead of Bielien translate to?

On paper the Cavs are much improved with Thompson being the only significant loss from the team that finished the season winning 6 of their last 13. They've replaced TT with Drummond as the starting center, added Okoro and Windler at SF, and added Dotson at SG. McGee replaces Henson/Zizic as the backup center. Garland and Porter are expected to be significantly better and Sexton has improved every year. Kevin Love has had eight months off which could do wonders for him.

But to make the playoffs they would have to jump ahead of seven teams, which is probably not realistic. But an increase in their win percentage from 29.2% to 35% would give them a 25-47 record, which is about what I expect. OTOH, they should be able to increase their win percentage by 6% just on the coaching change. Add in the roster upgrades and I could see 30-42 if everything goes right, Love stays healthy, and Drummond does what he's asked.
I think the team is better than last year's. I thinks it's reasonable to expect the 2020-21 versions of Garland Porter to be better than the 2019-2020 versions.. I also think if they don't improve we see Dotsuns minutes rise.. so positionally we got better at the two.

It's impossible to see collin not improving , but he made a big jump last year, which would be tough to match..So better at the 1 (queue arguments about true point guards..)

I think Tristan's exit will mean more Drummond, mcGee and Nance , all of which are better than last year's Tristan.. Dean Wade could also continue to improve.. or even Marq Boulden who had a very productive little run last year. So better at five

Love is love still, don't see a big drop coming there because he has been lightly used.. and there is Nance here as well.. So same at four..

Which leaves us with the 3 wild card. If it's Cedi, well I don't expect very different from last year. So worst case we are improved at three other positions.. the wild cards are Okoro and Windler, either or both of whom could greatly improved on Cedi, or suck relative large.. If either of those guys kill it, we are a fringe playoff team, IMO.
 
I think the team is better than last year's. I thinks it's reasonable to expect the 2020-21 versions of Garland Porter to be better than the 2019-2020 versions.. I also think if they don't improve we see Dotsuns minutes rise.. so positionally we got better at the two.

It's impossible to see collin not improving , but he made a big jump last year, which would be tough to match..So better at the 1 (queue arguments about true point guards..)

I think Tristan's exit will mean more Drummond, mcGee and Nance , all of which are better than last year's Tristan.. Dean Wade could also continue to improve.. or even Marq Boulden who had a very productive little run last year. So better at five

Love is love still, don't see a big drop coming there because he has been lightly used.. and there is Nance here as well.. So same at four..

Which leaves us with the 3 wild card. If it's Cedi, well I don't expect very different from last year. So worst case we are improved at three other positions.. the wild cards are Okoro and Windler, either or both of whom could greatly improved on Cedi, or suck relative large.. If either of those guys kill it, we are a fringe playoff team, IMO.

I think having Windler is really going to help the bench scoring. His defense will be a liability against starters, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him with 10-15 ppg as a key sub.
 
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How yall feel about the current roster vs last season.I thought the team would win 30 games last season. I was totally wrong about it. The drama with the roster vs Beilin didn't help either. Hopefully,everyone is one the same page this season because I really think this team can win 30 games and compete for the 10th spot.

If,the team can show progress on offense/defense and be around 17th in both categories that's a win in my book.
I thought our roster was terrible at start of last season, this year I think 30ish wins maybe even 35. We are naturally better now than last season because we aren’t disgustingly undersized at every position
 
They were a 24-win team last year if they played 82 games with a .292 win percentage. They might have done better since they were 4-5 under Bickerstaff. So 30 wins this year is definitely attainable, although with a 72-game schedule that might be a push. They played much better under JBB than with Bielien. Can they go 30-42? That's going to be tough.

As I see it there are a number of wild cards.

1. How much improvement from their rookie seasons will we see from Garland and Porter, both of whom will get a lot of minutes?

2. How much will newbies Windler, Okoro, and Dotson contribute and how quickly?

3. How much will the Cavs miss Tristan Thompson's leadership and talent?

4. Will the center position be improved or weakened by replacing Thompson, Henson, and Zizic with Drummond and McGee?

5. Andre Drummond is a 27-year-old two-time All-Star with eight seasons and 600 games of experience, but the Pistons practically gave him away saying his game doesn't translate to wins. Is his game going to help or hurt the Cavs? Is he willing to modify his game if asked to conform with JBB's style of play? Will he accept a complementary role with Sexton, Love, and Porter being the primary scorers and Garland, Nance, Windler, and Okoro being secondary scorers? Will he get enough shots to keep him happy? Or will he want to pad his stat sheet every night to set himself up for a big contract at the end of the season?

6. How many more wins will having JBB instead of Bielien translate to?

On paper the Cavs are much improved with Thompson being the only significant loss from the team that finished the season winning 6 of their last 13. They've replaced TT with Drummond as the starting center, added Okoro and Windler at SF, and added Dotson at SG. McGee replaces Henson/Zizic as the backup center. Garland and Porter are expected to be significantly better and Sexton has improved every year. Kevin Love has had eight months off which could do wonders for him.

But to make the playoffs they would have to jump ahead of seven teams, which is probably not realistic. But an increase in their win percentage from 29.2% to 35% would give them a 25-47 record, which is about what I expect. OTOH, they should be able to increase their win percentage by 6% just on the coaching change. Add in the roster upgrades and I could see 30-42 if everything goes right, Love stays healthy, and Drummond does what he's asked.

1. Those two will need to take a huge step and take some of the load off of Sexton...imo


2. I think Okoro and Windler will do fine since they don't need the ball alot.

3. This is a test for Love,Nance and Sexton.

4. If,Drummond can do what's ask of him and not try to play he's the star of the team. I think this team can do well.


5. Drummond needs to understand that he was brought here for defense and rebounds.

6. After,the Cavs season was officially over an anonymous player told Fedor that they could have won 30 games under Bickerstaff..While,I think the players should have done their job despite having an issue with Beilin. It makes you wonder,why the organization gave the job to a college coach,who was completely clueless about the NBA.

I know,one if the issues were that Beilin would take out the player that had the hot hand and let him sit on the bench for a long time.That made no sense to me.
 
I thought our roster was terrible at start of last season, this year I think 30ish wins maybe even 35. We are naturally better now than last season because we aren’t disgustingly undersized at every position


One thing,Bickerstaff preached after the season was over was length and defense...And,he and the organization accomplished both...imo
 
Remember there are only 72 games this season. 30 or 35 would be a big jump.
 
If they stay healthy they will make playoff the are a lot better then the so called experts are saying. the expert keep knocking MCGEE but he has three rings. and Drummond is a lot better when he is surrounded by better players .
 
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I'm not talking about Love's shot (his shot is nowhere near being flat) I'm talking about Nance's shot. With the of TT, Nance has the worst release of any of our frontcourt players. As for taking away Love's minutes at the end of games.....I don't see that because at the end of close games you need scorers on the floor. I was listening to a sports talk show here in Sac and rumor out of Warrior town is that the GM there (with the loss of Klay) is "exploring" what it might take to get Love from the Cavs.
Love’s shot has always been flat in that it has a low trajectory. I can remember pointing it out to my son, as it’s much easier to make it when you shoot a shot with a higher arc.

The Love to GS rumor is interesting and one that could have some legs, as he fits with Steph & Klay’s timeframe. Without a 3rd team involved, I see only 2 possible deals:

1) Love for Wiggins
2) Love for Oubre & Draymond Green

I think the first trade is highly unlikely. I’d actually consider the 2nd trade and think it’s a possibility. Draymond is the type of guy you love if he’s on your team and you hate him if he’s on the opposing team. It would be an adjustment, but I think Cavs fans would eventually embrace him based on how hard he plays. We’d have to find a taker for Cedi as we would then have too many SF’s.
 
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