0-16 or Nah?

[Jack Brickman]

Um, Hue Jackson sucks. He didn't lose this game, the players did. Period.

Maybe they don't lose this game if Hue is actually able to develop Kizer instead of shattering his confidence throughout the season. Maybe they don't lose this game if Hue makes better play calls early, or doesn't burn an inopportune timeout. Maybe they don't lose this game if the players are better prepared by the coaching staff and don't constantly line up wrong. Maybe they don't lose this game with better special teams play.

To say this is solely on the players is ludicrous. Coaching extends to a lot of aspects of play, especially when you consider that this was the final game of the season, and thus a good coach would presumably have had these guys playing better by now. Unfortunately, we have a shit coach who has only made our guys worse throughout the year.

 

[Los216]

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[Ohio]

Maybe they don't lose this game if Hue is actually able to develop Kizer instead of shattering his confidence throughout the season. Maybe they don't lose this game if Hue makes better play calls early, or doesn't burn an inopportune timeout. Maybe they don't lose this game if the players are better prepared by the coaching staff and don't constantly line up wrong. Maybe they don't lose this game with better special teams play.

To say this is solely on the players is ludicrous. Coaching extends to a lot of aspects of play, especially when you consider that this was the final game of the season, and thus a good coach would presumably have had these guys playing better by now. Unfortunately, we have a shit coach who has only made our guys worse throughout the year.

I'm just talking about this game...that's it. If you want to pin it on Hue Jackson, go ahead. It'd be absolutely asinine to do so but that's your prerogative.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I'm just talking about this game...that's it. If you want to pin it on Hue Jackson, go ahead. It'd be absolutely asinine to do so but that's your prerogative.

I think it was both the players and Hue Jackson in this one. Pretending it was only the players just seems pointless. If Hue had been coaching them better all season, maybe they play better today.

An average coach would have had at least a couple of wins out of this team, even despite some of the awful play. Hell, an average coach would probably have Kizer playing merely poorly instead of historically bad.

 

[Real Deal]

Kenny fucking Britt would've caught that pass.

Shoot Hue and Coleman to the Sun.

 

[Randolphkeys]

To say this is solely on the players is ludicrous. Coaching extends to a lot of aspects of play, especially when you consider that this was the final game of the season, and thus a good coach would presumably have had these guys playing better by now. Unfortunately, we have a shit coach who has only made our guys worse throughout the year.

The last game of the regular season with nothing at all at stake is very difficult for any coach. Most of the league rests veterans and just plays the young guys who are hungry for more playing time. Hue wanted to avoid 0-16, but let's not pretend that is the same as fighting for a wild card.

 

[The Oi]

Every loss is on the coach to a certain extent as @Jack Brickman has pointed out. Any coach who doesn’t acknowledge that after the game is a bad leader.

From what little I’ve observed of this guy, he has consistently refused to take responsibility for his players’ preparation and development and to take it on his own shoulders. I remember seeing a little bit of it last year, but this year there has been none of it.

Put yourself in a player’s shoes. Would you rather make some good plays during a game and have one big fuck up and have your coach accept blame at the end of a game to distract from your fuck up or have your coach leave you hanging? And have however many big fuckups per game by players that may have played alright otherwise and the coach not taking the game on his shoulders when you know he also made mistakes?

If you’ve never played a sport...translate this to corporate America but switch it to a Manager or Director who can afford to accept blame because he’s doing a good job otherwise. I’m sure the same translates to the Army or teaching or law firms. Leadership is leadership. Leaders take responsibility for their mistakes and those of the people they’re responsible for developing. So it feels good to have the guy above you that covers for your mistakes and takes responsibility for them and says he’ll make sure you don’t make them next time...or better yet, if they come up he says they’re his fault. And instead of that guy, make it a guy that’s fucking up your division and you make one mistake while he’s running your division into the ground.


Fuck that guy. He’s a bad leader.

 

[Jack Brickman]

The last game of the regular season with nothing at all at stake is very difficult for any coach. Most of the league rests veterans and just plays the young guys who are hungry for more playing time. Hue wanted to avoid 0-16, but let's not pretend that is the same as fighting for a wild card.

If we're being honest, I wouldn't blame the players on the team if they intentionally fucked up at times in order to try to get Hue fired. I can't imagine any of them actually want to keep playing for this joker after he keeps throwing them under the bus to the media.

 

[Randolphkeys]

If we're being honest, I wouldn't blame the players on the team if they intentionally fucked up at times in order to try to get Hue fired. I can't imagine any of them actually want to keep playing for this joker after he keeps throwing them under the bus to the media.

Sounds like purposefully assembling a faulty roster and accumulating future picks isn't a very good idea three years in a row.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Every loss is on the coach to a certain extent as @Jack Brickman has pointed out. Any coach who doesn’t acknowledge that after the game is a bad leader.

From what little I’ve observed of this guy, he has consistently refused to take responsibility for his players’ preparation and development and to take it on his own shoulders. I remember seeing a little bit of it last year, but this year there has been none of it.

Yeah, your job as a coach is to take responsibility when the people below you fuck up. It may not always be your fault when it happens, and I think most of us understand that. But a good leader doesn't throw the people he's leading to the wolves. He takes responsibility for their mistakes and then works to make sure those mistakes don't keep happening.

Hue literally does none of that. He blames everyone but himself when things go wrong and doesn't seem capable of helping those he supposedly leads fix the mistakes they make, because they keep making them.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I'm just talking about this game...that's it. If you want to pin it on Hue Jackson, go ahead. It'd be absolutely asinine to do so but that's your prerogative.

Honestly, how do you separate mental mistakes committed by players from the guy who has been coaching them all season? Isn't it part of a coach's job to instill things like situational awareness, etc.?

It'a young team, so they're going to screw up. What is utterly alarming is how we saw zero improvement in terms of mental preparedness and discipline from the first game to the last. Well-coached teams don't make this many stupid mistakes.

 

[redscoon]

• Hue saying not many coaches could have done what he was able to do these past two years. Like he somehow should be commended for what he has accomplished.

Never heard a more tone deaf coach.

 

[shoes22]

Every loss is on the coach to a certain extent as @Jack Brickman has pointed out. Any coach who doesn’t acknowledge that after the game is a bad leader.

From what little I’ve observed of this guy, he has consistently refused to take responsibility for his players’ preparation and development and to take it on his own shoulders. I remember seeing a little bit of it last year, but this year there has been none of it.

Put yourself in a player’s shoes. Would you rather make some good plays during a game and have one big fuck up and have your coach accept blame at the end of a game to distract from your fuck up or have your coach leave you hanging? And have however many big fuckups per game by players that may have played alright otherwise and the coach not taking the game on his shoulders when you know he also made mistakes?

Fuck that guy. He’s a bad leader.

Not only that, Hue goes in the opposite direction and publicly trashes his players to the media and destroys their confidence. It’s no wonder they couldn’t step up in situations like today. It’s no wonder they looked far better at the beginning of the season than they do today.

Hue then has the audacity to say he’s the only guy who could handle a job like this. Makes fun of the media for questioning any of his decisions. Fuck him.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Not only that, Hue goes in the opposite direction and publicly trashes his players to the media and destroys their confidence. It’s no wonder they couldn’t step up in situations like today. It’s no wonder they looked far better at the beginning of the season than they do today.

Hue then has the audacity to say he’s the only guy who could handle a job like this. Makes fun of the media for questioning any of his decisions. Fuck him.

I think you have to fire him for that reason alone...none of these guys is going to want to play for this asshole next year. He needs to go. Whatever you think of his coaching, he's a piece of shit person, and guys won't go to war for a guy who they know will trash them publicly whenever things go wrong.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Like he somehow should be commended for what he has accomplished.

That would be funny if it wasn't true. Because that's the exact message that his comment sends.