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2017-2018 Boston Celtics: No Irving! No Hayward! No Brooklyn Pick!

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Regrade the finalized trade

  • A+

    Votes: 20 8.0%
  • A

    Votes: 70 27.9%
  • B

    Votes: 74 29.5%
  • C

    Votes: 39 15.5%
  • D

    Votes: 18 7.2%
  • F

    Votes: 30 12.0%

  • Total voters
    251
We had good chemistry but the lack of real talent outside of lebron was visible. Also, people forget that nba wasn’t as strong and competitive back then as compared to these days. Once Lebron and co. birthed the super team, things have gotten a lot tougher in terms of the amount of talent on a single team needed to be considered a contender. Also, current players from all 5 positions are much better overall athletes which suites the small ball style of play adopted by many teams these days.

Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, and Charles Barkley teamed up in Houston.
Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, and Gary Payton teamed up in Los Angeles.
Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen teamed up in Boston.

All of those occurrences happened before LeBron, Wade, and Bosh teamed up in Miami. Get outta here with that kind of reaching if you want to be taken seriously around here my dude.
 
Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, and Charles Barkley teamed up in Houston.
Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, and Gary Payton teamed up in Los Angeles.
Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen teamed up in Boston.

All of those occurrences happened before LeBron, Wade, and Bosh teamed up in Miami. Get outta here with that kind of reaching if you want to be taken seriously around here my dude.
The showtime Lakers with Kareem, Magic, Worthy and company. The 80s Celtics teams. Those two weren't exactly created the same way as the teams you described, but still. It's absurd for people to act like LeBron's the first guy to play on a "super team" with multiple hall of famers.
 
This whole superteam thing just gets criticized because it's mainly the players who organize or form the teams. No one complained about when the Celtics and Lakers were ripping teams off in the 80s to get high draft picks while every Finals during the decade had either of the two teams play in it. No one complained when the Celtics were gifted KG for almost nothing and Minnesota might finally make the playoffs again this year.

People only get mad at players for making individual decisions and not front offices. No one ripped the Warriors who were five minutes away from winning another championship for being soft and running to get KD.
 
This is why I was never as concerned about the trade as some, as I just don't think Irving is built for longevity. Too many early career injuries usually means a short prime after 30, and who knows if he even resigns in Bos after next year.

Although the Crowder flameout between successful stints doesn't say much for the coaching staff...
 
Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, and Charles Barkley teamed up in Houston.
Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, and Gary Payton teamed up in Los Angeles.
Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen teamed up in Boston.

All of those occurrences happened before LeBron, Wade, and Bosh teamed up in Miami. Get outta here with that kind of reaching if you want to be taken seriously around here my dude.

While I'm not disagreeing that those things happened, none of those examples involved every player choosing to go to the same situation ahead of time in the middle of the prime of their careers...

LeBron certainly didn't play on the first 'super team', but it was the first time that three players planned out in advance a way for them to end up all on the same team when they were all at their respective peak.
 
That Philly trade looking even worse with the Lakers on the upswing. They now have to hope the Kings are all kinds of terrible next year, with a new lottery format:chuckle:

Do what? Now THIS is a take.

So they trade down, get the better player, and an extra (likely lottery) pick and it looks WORSE? I don't comprehend.

Like there's no formula you can use to say that trade was anything but amazing for Boston.

Unless you meant it l9oks bad for Philly in which case..yea.
 
To me it’s dumb that people give Lebron shit for forming a super team, like other greats didn’t play with loaded rosters themselves.
Must be nice that previous legends had competent front offices to give their star players what they needed.

Players like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Kobe etc had all time great teammates too but that’s ok cuz the front office built it....who cares how a team was formed?

Bottom line is they all played with great teammates. End result is still a superteam.
 
Congratulations to Kyrie Irving for being a huge part of the Boston Celtics making the ECF this season, his first year in Boston. He went to Boston to be THE MAN and he gracefully led his team past an up-started Philadelphia team.

What?

Kyrie didn't play and they won without him?

But I thought Kyrie was this huge impact maker and that the Cavaliers were screwed without him and the Celtics will thrive because of him?

Weird.
 
How close are rozier and kyrie in what they bring to the team
 

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