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2017 Browns Off Season Thread

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@Triplethreat grasping at straws here.

I've noted to myself: If you're going to drop rates to defend a QB, you've already lost the argument.
 
Have a hard time calling Josh Doctson and Jamison Crowder bad but whatever.

Cousins benefitted greatly from some really good weapons for so long. It was his turn to elevate and...meh.

I just think he is average.
 
Have a hard time calling Josh Doctson and Jamison Crowder bad but whatever.

Cousins benefitted greatly from some really good weapons for so long. It was his turn to elevate and...meh.

I just think he is average.

They're certainly not bad at all. It's a horrendous excuse that isn't even backed up by facts.
 
I'm trying to compile a list of who is better than Cousins....For sure the following:
Brees (old)
Brady(old)
Rodgers
Ryan (great weapons)
Roethlesberger (old)


The next 4 are similar to Cousins
Alex Smith (getting old)
Carson Wentz (still too early to tell how good he will be)
Stafford
Wilson (if he didn't have a top 10 D, would he win as many as Cousins?)

After that, there are a lot of players that are inconsistent (Newton / Carr), Young (Trabisky, Winsten) or on the downside of their career (Rivers / Manning). If Rosen is a slam dunk, then maybe you take your chance and take Rosen number one. I like Rosen and would take him #1, but it doesn't seem that there is a consensus. After that, I think there are a lot of unproven QBs. Cousins is a pretty sure thing to get you 7 wins without a defense. If you have a good defense, he's a playoff caliber quarterback. Why would you not want to put up money for that, especially if the Browns have it?
 
Kirk Cousins definitely isn't a top 5 quarterback, but the fact is he will make that type of money from some team this free agency, why not be Cleveland considering how they could use him under center.

I heard Allen Robinson's name being tossed around as a possible addition to the Browns as well. Would love that. A lot.

Flash - Robinson - Coleman at receiver. Then you have David Njoku at tightend who had a pretty good rookie season, and will only improve.

Get Barkley in the back field with Duke Johnson as a 1-2 punch with Kirk Cousins under center, along with the Browns' pretty good offensive line..

I just think that offense can finally score some damn points. Not to mention how the defense is one of the bright spots, and will only grow.

Really excited for what could be for this team, honestly.

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Joe Thomas went on Pardon My Take's latest episode

If he's still on the Cleveland Browns:
"As of today I still am"

On being more vocal on Twitter over past 6 months:
"I just think I felt more comfortable. Your give-a-fuck-meter is nearly broken it's so low. So I'm just gonna say whatever I feel like. And people can just take it however they want. Just having fun with it really"

On Kirk Cousins being a guy who could make an impact:
"No doubt. I like Kirk, I think he's a really good QB. I think he'd be a great fit in Cleveland. And my sales pitch for Kirk: if you go 6-10 in Cleveland next year they're gonna put a statue outside the stadium of your face" (Conspiracy theory for those who think JT is gonna retire: never said we or us in this answer)
 

I wish there was way we could bring him back in some capacity. I know he’s lost his fastball but he’s still a good mind. Just probably shouldn’t be making final decisions.
 

I wish there was way we could bring him back in some capacity. I know he’s lost his fastball but he’s still a good mind. Just probably shouldn’t be making final decisions.

Ozzie should end up the second dual inductee in NFL history. George Halas is in as a player, coach, and GM. I could also see Dick Lebeau inducted for his contributions as a coach; he's already on as a player.
 
So for whatever reason there's a conversation on Browns Twitter right now with a contingency of fans arguing to take the non-QB BPA at #1 and wait on the QB until #4.

I don't know where this discussion originated from.

I just have one question...who are these fuck heads? Seriously? I've lost more patience with idiotic Browns fans than I have with the idiotic Browns.

I just can't fathom how people can be so damn stupid.
 
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