Murray, DeRozan, Aldridge, and Lyles (4 of their 5 starters) are a combined 8/34 from deep (23.5%) so far this season. You'd think that would be a death sentence in the modern NBA.
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Murray, DeRozan, Aldridge, and Lyles (4 of their 5 starters) are a combined 8/34 from deep (23.5%) so far this season. You'd think that would be a death sentence in the modern NBA.
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Yeah. The way he has adapted his offense to DeRozan's game has been extremely impressive. They're back to using spacing from within the three point line to generate good looks and letting guys like Aldridge and Demar play 1 on 1 to score points. And, of course, they're back to playing Spurs level defense.
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Wade was awesome in '08-'09 (assuming you meant that year and not '07-'08).
30.4 PER, 10.7 BPM, 9.7 VORP, 57.4 TS%, 36.2 USG%
Still think LeBron was better that year though:
31.7 PER, 13.0 BPM, 11.6 VORP, 59.1 TS%, 33.8 USG%
LBJ led the league in PER, BPM, and VORP that season. He was an absolute monster.
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Apparently our boy Neon Deon had a seizure on the flight home after being woken up after eating gummies.
That may be the nail in his careers coffin. I always liked the kid but he seems to have never grown up.
That may be the nail in his careers coffin. I always liked the kid but he seems to have never grown up.
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Waiters is a legendary moron
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TO would ask for this year's Cavs first rounder or more if they got that call from the Cavs. Been the second best player on a Raptors team that is 6-2 after losing Kawhii.
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Waiters was such a shitty pick. There have been three really bad players taken in the top-10 of that 2012 draft.
- Dion Waiters (4th)
- Thomas Robinson (5th)
- Austin Rivers (10th)
Waiters is 25th in the '12 draft class in WS (8.7), 31st in BPM, and 52nd in VORP (-1.6). His VORP is dragged down by some guys who had far less playing time then him, but still, Waiters was another legendary blunder of a high Cleveland pick. A true scrub through and through.
- Dion Waiters (4th)
- Thomas Robinson (5th)
- Austin Rivers (10th)
Waiters is 25th in the '12 draft class in WS (8.7), 31st in BPM, and 52nd in VORP (-1.6). His VORP is dragged down by some guys who had far less playing time then him, but still, Waiters was another legendary blunder of a high Cleveland pick. A true scrub through and through.
I think that overstates the case against him a little bit. The 2016-17 Dion that earned a 50M contract was actually a pretty solid player. If not for injuries and off-court issues, I think he would've had a long career as a decent starter or a good 6th man.
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I'm still just infinitely salty from that draft because I followed and desperately wanted Bradley Beal all season long, just for Washington to snag him from us right before our pick. Kyrie, Beal, LeBron, and Love (I know things would've changed and we probably wouldn't have gotten Wiggins to trade for Love), would have been just an amazing core.
Imagine if we'd drafted Beal *and* Draymond. Irving/Beal/James/Love/Green probably wins 4-6 championships. Enormous missed opportunities in those rebuilding years.
It doesn’t overstate the case to say Waiters was a shitty pick. The point of picks is that you are trying to predict the guy’s NBA career. Character issues are very much a foreseeable part of that. He already had a bit of a knucklehead rep in college
It’s not like Waiters has such a high ceiling either. He had a great first step, quickness, and a solid build but not many standout skills beyond that.
It’s not like Waiters has such a high ceiling either. He had a great first step, quickness, and a solid build but not many standout skills beyond that.
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Khris Middleton was also selected late in the 2012 draft (after Draymond)
And that’s just 2012. In 2013 we left Giannis, Steve Adams, Oladipo, and Otto Porter on the table to draft the most useless #1 pick of all time.
Yes, a LOT of missed opportunities. Lebron, Kyrie and any two of those guys are one of the all time great NBA teams. Any one of them maybe we at least get the 2015 championship
Of course a big part of me says this organization could not have developed those players successfully
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SGA looking awfully good so far. AWFULLY good.
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